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Dem4Life1102

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27. Yes defeating Trump is the goal
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 06:15 PM
Mar 2020

Which is why a more strategic pick than Klobuchar is needed for VP.

1- Minnesota is not solid blue. It is currently listed as "lean Dem" by Cook Political Report, and my point was about
the Midwest as a region rather than a specific state


No. While you are entitled to your own opinion, you're not to your own facts. Minnesota is a solid blue state. It has a Democratic Governor and both Senators are Democrats. It hasn't voted for a Republican for President since 1972. And in the last poll by the Minneapolis Star Tribune has Biden beating Trump by 12 points.

Also unfortunately the electoral college is by state not by region, so what swing state does Klobuchar help flip.

2- I acknowledge both are basically center left, which is where the Democrats generally win (see Carter and Clinton)

Biden is center left and is the nominee. He needs a VP that is more progressive or he's making the same mistake that Clinton did in 16.

3- I live in SC, where Biden won 49% of the vote in a field of 7 candidates, primarily as a result of large majorities of black voters

True, but Clinton won the AA vote overwhelmingly in both the primaries and election. But they still didn't vote in the same numbers they did for Obama. Klobuchar does noting to energize that vote.

4- I never mentioned Franken; I said that there would, unlike several other states, be a guaranteed Democratic replacement

I know but the hidden agenda of of many people pushing Kobuchar for VP is the delusion that he'll be appointed to her seat.

My personal favorite would be Harris, followed by Warren.

Both of whom come from solid blue states and don't help flip a swing state.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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I am SO down with that! dchill Mar 2020 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Mar 2020 #24
The ticket needs racial balance customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #2
Exactly. All three points are key. Strategically, I'd say, swing state is super key. zonkers Mar 2020 #5
Excellent points Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #8
it will be a poc evertonfc Mar 2020 #3
No No and No leftieNanner Mar 2020 #4
I think the senate defacto7 Mar 2020 #15
Correct, but i don't think we need to worry, as this is purely speculation till Joe announces it onetexan Mar 2020 #28
And it would be until a special election ms liberty Mar 2020 #35
I think Klobuchar makes more sense SCantiGOP Mar 2020 #6
Actually she doesn't Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #10
Let's just amicably disagree, SCantiGOP Mar 2020 #21
Yes defeating Trump is the goal Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #27
Yup bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Mar 2020 #25
Yes! stuffmatters Mar 2020 #7
Nope awesomerwb1 Mar 2020 #9
We need someone younger who can run after his term and give us another 8 years. GemDigger Mar 2020 #12
I agree Rebl2 Mar 2020 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Mar 2020 #26
If Bernie or Liz wins then I say the same thing to them. GemDigger Mar 2020 #33
100% pattyloutwo Mar 2020 #38
As a Warren Voter, I Hope The Answer Is Yes! TomCADem Mar 2020 #13
Not gonna be Warren Zeus69 Mar 2020 #14
Yup!! Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #17
Agree. disndat Mar 2020 #18
If Harris says no, then it's Abrams. Funtatlaguy Mar 2020 #30
Warren saved it first. She singlehandedly pushed the blm Mar 2020 #31
Agree to some extent Zeus69 Mar 2020 #40
Not her personal goal, but the result was dramatic. blm Mar 2020 #41
Can't see that happening with Warren. FloridaBlues Mar 2020 #16
no left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #20
It would be a winning ticket. jalan48 Mar 2020 #22
Nope FunkyLeprechaun Mar 2020 #23
This. I love Liz but we can't afford a Senate seat. Funtatlaguy Mar 2020 #29
I wouldn't mind that Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #32
"Biden allies"? SharonClark Mar 2020 #34
That is who it needs to be, IMO. The idealogical balance is a necessity ms liberty Mar 2020 #36
I didn't think he would marlakay Mar 2020 #37
Yes! pattyloutwo Mar 2020 #39
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