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Tom Rinaldo

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21. That's like saying Trump didn't almost get us into a war with Iran
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 12:10 PM
Mar 2020

because no U.S. soldiers were killed during Iran's retaliatory missile attack and thus an escalating spiral was averted. "See, there never was any danger.."

I will repost this Washington Post reporting which you failed to respond to below:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obamas-evolution-behind-the-failed-grand-bargain-on-the-debt/2012/03/15/gIQAHyyfJS_story.html


"That night, Obama prepared his party’s congressional leaders. He warned Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) that he might return to the position under discussion the previous Sunday — that is, cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid in exchange for just $800 billion in tax increases.

The Democratic leaders “kind of gulped” when they heard the details, Daley recalled...

...Dan Pfeiffer, the White House communications director, recalled that the president and his team felt the weight of the global economy “on our shoulders.”

“Is there political benefit to coming to a big budget deal with John Boehner? Sure,” Pfeiffer said. “But every other political and message imperative was thrown out the door to prevent a disaster and do the right thing for the country. That’s why we were willing to do things we wouldn’t normally do.”

Reluctantly, Reid and Pelosi agreed to do their best to support the plan...

...Two day later, July 24, one week after the Sunday morning meeting that sparked such optimism, the president found himself trying to turn back the clock.

Working late into the evening, Obama asked someone to get Boehner on the phone. His message: I’ll take your last offer.

“Mr. President,” Boehner answered, “we don’t have time to reopen these negotiations.”

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Only there was really no need to push frazzled Mar 2020 #1
They both should be vocal now for senior citizens duforsure Mar 2020 #2
The problem is that Bernie carped about everything. ucrdem Mar 2020 #3
. . . and, given his long record, continue to carp about everything, and help trump, empedocles Mar 2020 #4
I strongly disagree on the latter Tom Rinaldo Mar 2020 #5
It didn't happen because Obama called their bluff. ucrdem Mar 2020 #9
Well it never happened now did it?. Bargaining is art form that Sanders doesn't understand. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #18
That's like saying Trump didn't almost get us into a war with Iran Tom Rinaldo Mar 2020 #21
Apples and oranges...have you ever negotiated anything? I have. You put stuff out there that you Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #26
Bernie doesn't know much about negotiating treestar Mar 2020 #10
But he knows what people like to hear. ucrdem Mar 2020 #11
You mean his misleading and false statements about Biden and SS? TwilightZone Mar 2020 #6
sanders claims about social security and Biden are all false Gothmog Mar 2020 #23
Once again Sanders misrepresented what Biden said years ago. And he refused to own up to.... George II Mar 2020 #7
Thank you for this post. Bluepinky Mar 2020 #8
Please that has been a Democratic thing for years... Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #14
Democratic Party has veered toward the center over the last few decades, Bluepinky Mar 2020 #19
lol NCProgressive Mar 2020 #16
Really? Gothmog Mar 2020 #24
Kickin' Faux pas Mar 2020 #12
I noticed one of the moderators called Sanders on his SS remarks in the 90's too...kind of ruined it Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #13
That the Chained CPI was merely a "bargaining ploy" is merely your opinion Tom Rinaldo Mar 2020 #15
I guess Sanders and some Sanders supporters don't understand negotiation tactics Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #17
You did not address the post you responded to, which includes inside reporting n/t Tom Rinaldo Mar 2020 #20
Sanders' Social Security 'adjustments' undercut Biden attack Gothmog Mar 2020 #28
Then we need to discuss sanders wanting to cut Sociral Security Gothmog Mar 2020 #22
We need to discuss anyone being willing to cut Social Security, any time. Tom Rinaldo Mar 2020 #25
#Florida Poll, Whom voters trust on Social security Gothmog Mar 2020 #27
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