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In reply to the discussion: Bernie isn't promising the moon. He's promising to *fight for* the moon. [View all]Gothmog
(166,528 posts)87. Switzerland rejects single-payer in landslide, keeps its version of Obamacare
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Swiss voters resoundingly rejected a proposal to move the country to a single-payer system on Sunday. Instead, the country will keep its private health insurance system, which looks a whole lot like Obamacare.
Two-thirds of Swiss voters opposed creating a state-run health plan in the national referendum. The issue was put to a vote after Swiss campaigners gathered more than 100,000 signatures, the threshold for getting a national vote; some initial polls in 2013 had shown strong support for a state-run system.
For a country with a relatively small population (8 million), Switzerland comes up a shocking amount in debates over American health care. That's probably because the Swiss health care system looks pretty similar to the one Obamacare sets up.
Since 1996, Switzerland has required all residents purchase coverage through an individual mandate. "If you move to Switzerland, you have three months to buy coverage and it's retroactive to your arrival," Aaron Carroll explains in his excellent video primer on the Swiss health care system.
Swiss residents buy coverage from private health insurance plans, who compete for their business. The average monthly premium for adults, in American dollars, was $329 in 2013. There are no pre-existing conditions in Switzerland; insurers are only allowed to vary premiums based on age, charging different rates for children under 18, young adults between 19 and 25, and adults over 25.
Two-thirds of Swiss voters opposed creating a state-run health plan in the national referendum. The issue was put to a vote after Swiss campaigners gathered more than 100,000 signatures, the threshold for getting a national vote; some initial polls in 2013 had shown strong support for a state-run system.
For a country with a relatively small population (8 million), Switzerland comes up a shocking amount in debates over American health care. That's probably because the Swiss health care system looks pretty similar to the one Obamacare sets up.
Since 1996, Switzerland has required all residents purchase coverage through an individual mandate. "If you move to Switzerland, you have three months to buy coverage and it's retroactive to your arrival," Aaron Carroll explains in his excellent video primer on the Swiss health care system.
Swiss residents buy coverage from private health insurance plans, who compete for their business. The average monthly premium for adults, in American dollars, was $329 in 2013. There are no pre-existing conditions in Switzerland; insurers are only allowed to vary premiums based on age, charging different rates for children under 18, young adults between 19 and 25, and adults over 25.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Bernie isn't promising the moon. He's promising to *fight for* the moon. [View all]
DanTex
Feb 2020
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sanders' agenda is dependent on a magical voter revolution that I would love to understand
Gothmog
Feb 2020
#18
In other words its like how after a rumor that a Walmart store might be closing and they release a
cstanleytech
Mar 2020
#21
Can he also *fight for* eradicating mosquitoes, forgiveness of all credit card debt and mortages,
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#15
Again, I never took sanders to be a serious candidate and do not understand his appeal
Gothmog
Mar 2020
#73
There's no such thing as "fighting", though. It's just something online people made up.
Recursion
Mar 2020
#22
Bernie may not win the entire war but please remember in 2ish years when we have
Sunlei
Mar 2020
#40
If they have the senate majority, I can assure you, it will be very easy for them to obstruct.
HarlanPepper
Mar 2020
#81
Yours being the insulting behavior you consistently point to as "how is this winning over voters"?
LanternWaste
Mar 2020
#41
The Democratic leadership should fight for Medicare for All and the Green New Deal.
BeckyDem
Mar 2020
#71
But it comes across as bribery...offering free stuff in exchange for a vote.
unitedwethrive
Mar 2020
#72
we need no fighting we need actual stuff done, exactly what sanders fails to get done
beachbumbob
Mar 2020
#80
So Bernie is saying he will talk the talk but not actually walk the walk.
Vivienne235729
Mar 2020
#89