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In reply to the discussion: Sanders stays, so his movement can live on by dragging Biden leftward [View all]Gothmog
(166,964 posts)22. if sanders keeps losing primaries by large margins, this plan will not work
sanders not dropping out may help Biden. sanders keeps on losing primaries by large margins nnly strenghten's Joe's position https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/11/no-surprise-bernie-sanders-is-still-all-about-himself-never-party/
Sanderss remaining in the race should serve several salutary purposes for the party and the country. First, seeing him lose overwhelmingly week after week will dispel the notion that the Democratic Party has moved left, or that he is in a dominant position to negotiate with the overwhelming winner. Its not clear why the Biden camp should give Sanders anything.
Second, it is good to keep Biden in fighting form, continuing to boost turnout and showing, as he did in Philadelphia, how presidential he is. Biden can pivot to the general election, essentially ignoring Sanders. (His planned speech on the coronavirus is the perfect opportunity to leave Sanders out of the discussion entirely.)....
Whoever is to replace Sanders as the standard-bearer for the left hopefully someone as smart and wonky as Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) will need to learn how to win elections. (Hint: It is not by scaring voters or attaching oneself to the socialist label.) When in office, a new generation of leaders on the left will need to learn the art of deal-making rather than waste years, as Sanders has, rabble-rousing but accomplishing nothing. Unlike Sanders, Warren (or whoever else takes the reins) will not be burdened by a record of reflexively praising dictators nor be driven to attack fellow Democrats.
Sanders will end the race at some point, a diminished figure. In retrospect, his wins in 2016 will be seen more as an anti-Hillary Clinton vote than a pro-Sanders vote. How he behaves at Sundays debate will determine whether he leaves a bad taste in the mouths of Democrats.
Second, it is good to keep Biden in fighting form, continuing to boost turnout and showing, as he did in Philadelphia, how presidential he is. Biden can pivot to the general election, essentially ignoring Sanders. (His planned speech on the coronavirus is the perfect opportunity to leave Sanders out of the discussion entirely.)....
Whoever is to replace Sanders as the standard-bearer for the left hopefully someone as smart and wonky as Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) will need to learn how to win elections. (Hint: It is not by scaring voters or attaching oneself to the socialist label.) When in office, a new generation of leaders on the left will need to learn the art of deal-making rather than waste years, as Sanders has, rabble-rousing but accomplishing nothing. Unlike Sanders, Warren (or whoever else takes the reins) will not be burdened by a record of reflexively praising dictators nor be driven to attack fellow Democrats.
Sanders will end the race at some point, a diminished figure. In retrospect, his wins in 2016 will be seen more as an anti-Hillary Clinton vote than a pro-Sanders vote. How he behaves at Sundays debate will determine whether he leaves a bad taste in the mouths of Democrats.

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Sanders stays, so his movement can live on by dragging Biden leftward [View all]
arenean
Mar 2020
OP
Fuck the excuses. If Joe needed to move left more would be voting for Bernie than Joe.
MrsCoffee
Mar 2020
#1
I think not...and I mean no disrespect but you don't support Biden...so why should we care what you
Demsrule86
Mar 2020
#26
But not when they learn it outlaws work insurance...you all always forget the detail but it doesn't
Demsrule86
Mar 2020
#24
Unless Bernie runs 3rd party it is literally impossible for him to be a spoiler.
LostOne4Ever
Mar 2020
#32
And no matter how far left Biden goes to placate Bernie's followers, it will never be far enough
sop
Mar 2020
#30
How about working via the legislative means (the House and / or Senate) to get these things ...
SWBTATTReg
Mar 2020
#6
The beatings Bernie is about to take in Florida, Illinois, Ohio, Georgia, etc. are not going to help
ecdab
Mar 2020
#11
Given that he has lost 13 states he has no right to demand shit...and his presence will re-elect
Demsrule86
Mar 2020
#23
Biden won't be dragged anywhere. Bernie's the one to be dragged. To the curb, for antiquers to find.
Scurrilous
Mar 2020
#37
biden can pay no attention to sanders or his supporters. Sander's supporters can decide
beachbumbob
Mar 2020
#39