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In reply to the discussion: Bernie isn't promising the moon. He's promising to *fight for* the moon. [View all]ehrnst
(32,640 posts)63. When did Joe say "nothing would fundamentally change" if he became president?
Perhaps you applied confirmation bias to something he has stated he would build on what the Obama administration accomplished?
But I'm sure you have a link to back up this accusation..
Here's an example of what I'm talking about.
Biden says his presidency would not be 'a third term of Obama'
The world has changed. It's different. We have the same value set, he and I. And, you know, I don't think we gave him enough credit. He's a guy that our kids could look up to and they did look up to.
He added: But it's a different world. The same things don't apply. But I do keep in contact with him.
He added: But it's a different world. The same things don't apply. But I do keep in contact with him.

And it seems like Bernie has suddenly decided to embrace Obama for the reflected light of that era, so there's that...
Fact check: Bernie Sanders ad featuring praise from Obama leaves out important context
Obama did say, "That's right. Feel the Bern!" at the 2016 convention. But he said it while trying to get Sanders supporters to vote for Clinton, not while offering an endorsement of Sanders.
Obama was trying to unite the party behind Clinton after her contentious primary with Sanders. During Obama's lengthy testimonial to Clinton, he complimented Sanders supporters -- and promptly encouraged everybody to vote for Democrats.
"So if you agree that there's too much inequality in our economy and too much money in our politics, we all need to be as vocal and as organized and as persistent as Bernie Sanders supporters have been during this election," Obama said. There were cheers. Obama continued: "We all need to get out and vote for Democrats up and down the ticket, and then hold them accountable until they get the job done."
The crowd cheered again, and there was a chant of "Ber-nie!" Obama then said, "That's right -- feel the Bern!"
Obama was trying to unite the party behind Clinton after her contentious primary with Sanders. During Obama's lengthy testimonial to Clinton, he complimented Sanders supporters -- and promptly encouraged everybody to vote for Democrats.
"So if you agree that there's too much inequality in our economy and too much money in our politics, we all need to be as vocal and as organized and as persistent as Bernie Sanders supporters have been during this election," Obama said. There were cheers. Obama continued: "We all need to get out and vote for Democrats up and down the ticket, and then hold them accountable until they get the job done."
The crowd cheered again, and there was a chant of "Ber-nie!" Obama then said, "That's right -- feel the Bern!"

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Bernie isn't promising the moon. He's promising to *fight for* the moon. [View all]
DanTex
Feb 2020
OP
sanders' agenda is dependent on a magical voter revolution that I would love to understand
Gothmog
Feb 2020
#18
In other words its like how after a rumor that a Walmart store might be closing and they release a
cstanleytech
Mar 2020
#21
Can he also *fight for* eradicating mosquitoes, forgiveness of all credit card debt and mortages,
ehrnst
Feb 2020
#15
Again, I never took sanders to be a serious candidate and do not understand his appeal
Gothmog
Mar 2020
#73
There's no such thing as "fighting", though. It's just something online people made up.
Recursion
Mar 2020
#22
Bernie may not win the entire war but please remember in 2ish years when we have
Sunlei
Mar 2020
#40
If they have the senate majority, I can assure you, it will be very easy for them to obstruct.
HarlanPepper
Mar 2020
#81
Yours being the insulting behavior you consistently point to as "how is this winning over voters"?
LanternWaste
Mar 2020
#41
The Democratic leadership should fight for Medicare for All and the Green New Deal.
BeckyDem
Mar 2020
#71
But it comes across as bribery...offering free stuff in exchange for a vote.
unitedwethrive
Mar 2020
#72
we need no fighting we need actual stuff done, exactly what sanders fails to get done
beachbumbob
Mar 2020
#80
So Bernie is saying he will talk the talk but not actually walk the walk.
Vivienne235729
Mar 2020
#89