Democratic Primaries

Laelth

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56. I'm just not worried about it, frankly.

Wed Feb 5, 2020, 09:11 PM

Feb 2020

I think that Daffy Duck could beat Trump in the 2020 presidential election, and that's with or without a surge in youth voting. Recent polls suggested that 50% of the American people wanted the Senate to remove Trump from office pursuant to the House's Articles of Impeachment.

Daffy has the right argument, and I think the American people get it.

To Trump, we say:

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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There's not going to be a 'revolution' at the voting booth for Bernie [View all] Lexblues Feb 2020 OP

Got HALF the votes he got last time. So you are clearly right. Squinch Feb 2020 #1

You do realize that "last time" was a two person race. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #2

Yes. And BS lost half of his Iowa votes to the new guys. He needs more this time, not fewer. Squinch Feb 2020 #7

pssst. It's a distraction. bluewater Feb 2020 #8

No. It's simply a statement of fact. If it distracts you from being happy about Joe's showing, Squinch Feb 2020 #12

That doesn't account for the flat turnout relative to 2016 HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #19

Doesn't matter. Half his 16 voters chose "another". Blue_true Feb 2020 #45

And yet Sanders clobbered Biden in Iowa !!1!!1! bluewater Feb 2020 #4

Doesn't change that half his 2016 voters abandoned him. But I guess that isn't something Squinch Feb 2020 #15

It does seem meaningless. Like comparing apples and oranges. bluewater Feb 2020 #21

You seem to need to talk about Joe. I haven't brought him up. Joe's showing is not Squinch Feb 2020 #22

As the field NARROWS, everyone's support goes back up. bluewater Feb 2020 #24

Sure. Half your voters have decided they don't want to vote for you any more. Total victory. Squinch Feb 2020 #25

lol I think someone might be pulling my leg now. bluewater Feb 2020 #26

I dig how you move the goalposts so quickly and without shame. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #69

An observation bluewater Feb 2020 #71

I don't. Cha Feb 2020 #83

Give it to you, bernie lost half of his support ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #28

You guys keep saying that. But it doesn't change the fact that BS lost half his support. Squinch Feb 2020 #30

Sorry fourth place Joe is stll in fourth place ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #32

Wow. I guess any raft to cling to. When your candidate loses half his support. Squinch Feb 2020 #33

He beat Joe ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #35

Actually, BS support likes caucus. Biden's support don't participate in caucus. krissey Feb 2020 #42

And Pete beat Sanders. nt Blue_true Feb 2020 #46

Has he yet? I don't think any results are finalized. bluewater Feb 2020 #47

Pete's chances of winning were at 82% and change today, Blue_true Feb 2020 #48

So Pete has not beat Sanders as of now. OK. Thanks. bluewater Feb 2020 #51

The probability is that Pete will beat Bernie in the final count. nt Blue_true Feb 2020 #53

Uh huh. Time will tell. bluewater Feb 2020 #55

I thought that Warren was supposed to have the best organization in Iowa TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #64

Warren's widespread organization saved her from a Biden-like disaster bluewater Feb 2020 #65

I don't believe that Biden needs to outperform Buttigieg in New Hampshire. TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #66

Interesting points. bluewater Feb 2020 #67

Boy, just how dense does one have to be to not understand the main point. Pololv Feb 2020 #57

The post you replied to said this ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #58

My main point is that no one has won Iowa yet. bluewater Feb 2020 #60

The main truth of this OP is that bernie DID lose half his support. Pololv Feb 2020 #62

the thing is Nikki28 Feb 2020 #3

I didn't hear about Trumpers trapping voters. And I think it's probably bullshit. Care to Squinch Feb 2020 #13

Amen texasfiddler Feb 2020 #5

Youth turnout in Iowa was up to 27%, from 18% in 2016 Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #6

Interesting, I hadn't seen the demographics. Is the raw # up? JudyM Feb 2020 #34

Those are SteveKornacki's numbers from NBC's entrance polls Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #39

I think we would have seen it in Iowa HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #9

We can't afford to overlook any potential voter Kaiserguy Feb 2020 #10

I'm starting to think that beating Trump looks pretty unlikely. Still In Wisconsin Feb 2020 #14

Good analysis Cornell Engineer Feb 2020 #37

I believe Biden is still our best bet. And until Iowa, he had a great chance. Unfortunately, Iowa, emmaverybo Feb 2020 #102

In my opinion, if we nominate Bernie, Trump will win with somewhere around 350 electoral votes. Still In Wisconsin Feb 2020 #11

Thank you for pointing this out! texasfiddler Feb 2020 #16

In My Opinion people Feb 2020 #20

I don't think I'll base my one chance to get rid of Filthy Donny on your opinion. Squinch Feb 2020 #23

As long as you don't expect your opinion to matter to anyone else either, that's fine. Kentonio Feb 2020 #85

Sanders supporters? No. I don't expect them to be influenced by anything but their own opinions. Squinch Feb 2020 #88

Maybe check a mirror Kentonio Feb 2020 #89

Ahh! The "I know you are but what am I" defense! Interesting choice. Squinch Feb 2020 #90

No, more just tired of you being hostile and rude to people Kentonio Feb 2020 #91

Got it. My stating an opinion is rude and hostile. You or the Squinch Feb 2020 #92

My opinions are always up for questioning. Kentonio Feb 2020 #93

Lol! "Not trying to attack you." If that is the case you need to Squinch Feb 2020 #94

I have a feeling that you get the last word. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #95

SMDH. Can't make this stuff up. Squinch Feb 2020 #96

Oh! But I see what you mean! How did that happen? Squinch Feb 2020 #97

I don't know... I just say "Thank ya Jesus" and move on! NurseJackie Feb 2020 #99

You made me smile. Squinch Feb 2020 #100

What are you basing your opinion on? "Facts" that you read around here? Sanders beats trump JudyM Feb 2020 #36

What matters is individual states, not popular vote totals. This should be obvious now. Still In Wisconsin Feb 2020 #38

Sanders wins MI and probably WI. He took both states last time around & trump won there because of JudyM Feb 2020 #40

No, Sanders won the DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY in Wisconsin. Still In Wisconsin Feb 2020 #54

I don't know if that argument holds up. JudyM Feb 2020 #63

In a two person race Bettie Feb 2020 #17

We saw all this before with Nader.... ehrnst Feb 2020 #18

Rove funded Nader Gothmog Feb 2020 #50

thank you for that, Goth Cha Feb 2020 #80

IF bernie wanted a 'Revolution' he would have done this in his youth..Dear Gawd how long... samnsara Feb 2020 #27

+1000. ehrnst Feb 2020 #41

More important than his vote total from Iowa. lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #29

Exactly...there's no revolution at the ballot box Lexblues Feb 2020 #43

Exactly. Cha Feb 2020 #61

The youth vote in Iowa was way up on 2016. Kentonio Feb 2020 #86

The total vote was not uponit7771 Feb 2020 #112

Yep, even if Bernie eeks out a win in Iowa, he lost. Pete won in Iowa nt SunSeeker Feb 2020 #31

It was supposed to be magic revolution, not the regular raggedy running about kind, but magic. Scurrilous Feb 2020 #44

This makes me smile Gothmog Feb 2020 #52

I have questionsw about this magical voter revolution Gothmog Feb 2020 #49

I'm just not worried about it, frankly. Laelth Feb 2020 #56

It's one thing to show up at college after class and meet your friends but quite another to go to a UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #59

We all, myself included, need to practice patience Tweedy Feb 2020 #68

Turnout was flat relative to 2016 HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #70

No. That is yesterday's rush to news Tweedy Feb 2020 #72

LOL Three thousand more over 2016 is not significant HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #73

Where did you get that number? Tweedy Feb 2020 #75

How many primaries let registered repubs vote? flamingdem Feb 2020 #74

When I ask serious Bernie supporters who are our students if they are registered. redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #76

Sanders equal MFM008 Feb 2020 #77

+1 oasis Feb 2020 #78

Have read Rick Wilson's new book ? That's exactly what he said, in fact IIRC, he said the high point OnDoutside Feb 2020 #79

Iowa turnout declined which means no voter revolution Gothmog Feb 2020 #81

No it didn't. Kentonio Feb 2020 #87

Yet vastly lower than 2008 AncientGeezer Feb 2020 #104

This claim was fact checked and found to be sanders spin i.e., not true Gothmog Feb 2020 #105

KICK Cha Feb 2020 #82

K&R betsuni Feb 2020 #84

I think it's clear that there is even more support for Bernie than in 2016. Malmsy Feb 2020 #98

18 to 29 y.o. turnout is up 79% since 2014. Kurt V. Feb 2020 #101

The truth is, you have no evidence to support your fear based hypothesis Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #103

FactCheck Posts- Sanders Spins Young Voter Turnout in Iowa Gothmog Feb 2020 #106

Sanders does not have a magic wand Gothmog Feb 2020 #107

No, radical policies won't drive election-winning turnout Gothmog Feb 2020 #108

Sanders would kill down ballot candidates Gothmog Feb 2020 #109

Where is sanders' magical voter revolution?? Gothmog Feb 2020 #110

K&R, there's no evidence Sanders or Bloomberg has swing state appeal uponit7771 Feb 2020 #111