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merrily

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26. Obama's presence was a much bigger deal than Hillary's. I also see nothing to indicate
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 08:31 AM
Jul 2015

that it was her initiative, rather than his.

Obama was greeted with euphoria in Burma, where where tens of thousands of people lined the streets of Yangon to cheer the first American president to visit a country that until recently had long been isolated from the West. “You gave us hope,” Obama declared in Yangon.

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From the airport, Obama headed straight to the Peace Palace for a meeting with Hun Sen that later was described by U.S. officials as a tense encounter dominated by the president voicing concerns about Cambodia’s human rights record. He specifically raised the lack of free and fair elections, the detention of political prisoners and land seizures, officials said.

Deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes said Obama told the prime minister that those issues are “an impediment” to a deeper relationship between the U.S. and Cambodia. Rhodes said Hun Sen defended his country’s record, saying unique circumstances motivate its policies and practices. Still, the prime minister expressed a desire to deepen ties with the U.S., Rhodes said.

Earlier in Burma, Obama addressed a national audience from the University of Yangon, offering a “hand of friendship” and a lasting U.S. commitment, yet a warning, too. He said the new civilian government must nurture democracy or watch it, and U.S. support, disappear.

The six-hour stop in Burma was the centerpiece of a four-day trip to Southeast Asia that began in Bangkok and ends Tuesday in Cambodia, where Obama will visit with Chinese, Japanese and Southeast Asia leaders in addition to attending the East Asia Summit with regional leaders.


http://news.nationalpost.com/news/barack-obama-hillary-clinton-have-emotional-visit-with-burma-democracy-activist-aung-san-suu-kyi

Also, while Aung San Suu Kyi did get coverage, I think it's naive to assume it had nothing to do with the TPP. More was done with that after the trip than anything else. In either case, I really don't see claiming the credit (or blame) for Hillary, rather than Obama.

The visit (Hillary's) comes weeks after President Obama toured Asia and made a series of announcements bolstering American commitments in the region.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-15997268

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Excellent points, and questions... truebluegreen Jul 2015 #1
Thank you. merrily Jul 2015 #2
Well, there's Burma... TreasonousBastard Jul 2015 #3
'calming hotspots' is one of those sort of vague Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #4
True-- the best that can be said is that she didn't... TreasonousBastard Jul 2015 #5
"Obviously" being perhaps the key word. That we know of yet. merrily Jul 2015 #10
Can you say a bit more about Burma, please. merrily Jul 2015 #7
That was the first American visit in 50 years... TreasonousBastard Jul 2015 #20
Thank you. OK she visited for the first time. Obama, too. Whose idea? Did it have to do with TPP? merrily Jul 2015 #22
Probably nothing to do with the TPP... TreasonousBastard Jul 2015 #25
Obama's presence was a much bigger deal than Hillary's. I also see nothing to indicate merrily Jul 2015 #26
as SOS, she helped multinational corporations and helped draft the TPP antigop Jul 2015 #6
And there we come to the crux of the matter. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #8
her undersecretary for economic growth: former vice chair Goldman Sachs antigop Jul 2015 #11
+100 nt antigop Jul 2015 #13
+1000 kath Jul 2015 #32
Helping multinationals is undoubtedly a large part of the responsibilities of any SOS. merrily Jul 2015 #9
Erich's post #8 above... antigop Jul 2015 #12
Should we actually accept that? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #14
I wish we had public owned utilities, grocery stores and gas stations. but we don't Sunlei Jul 2015 #16
You probably know my answers, right? merrily Jul 2015 #21
Well, I would hope they're the same as mine, but you did repeat the idea that Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #23
I was describing what I believe to be currently the reality, not what I would like to see or what I merrily Jul 2015 #24
PS. Just noticed: I also called it a form of corporate welfare. merrily Jul 2015 #27
no, we should not. I know you didn't address the question to me. nt antigop Jul 2015 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Sunlei Jul 2015 #15
I don't actually know what Obama is or is not over or who he trusts. merrily Jul 2015 #17
I don't mean blindly follow Obamas choices, but at this point his opinion carries a lot of weight to Sunlei Jul 2015 #18
No, you shouldn't delete it. Nothing was wrong with it as far as the forum. merrily Jul 2015 #19
The Peter Principle. SheilaT Jul 2015 #28
Never read it. However, the Kos article went well beyond saying that SOS was the only merrily Jul 2015 #29
Your points are valid but the Kos article is a hit piece Warpy Jul 2015 #31
The daily kos article is harshly written, undoubtedly. merrily Jul 2015 #33
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