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Populist Reform of the Democratic Party

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merrily

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Sat Jul 18, 2015, 05:44 AM Jul 2015

Daily Kos: Job titles do not necessarily equate to accomplishments or qualifications [View all]

I have posted about my three reasons why Hillary is not my candidate: her Iraq War advocacy; her "racially-tinged" 2008 primary campaign against Obama; and her role in propagating the DLC gospel.

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1277&pid=7603


While searching for something else, I got linked to a Daily Kos article citing a different three reasons why, according to that poster, Hillary should never be President.

One of the points made by the Daily Kos article (rather harshly) was that having a job does not necessarily mean that one accomplished anything while holding the job. So, I did some quick research myself and then I asked in this group for Hillary's accomplishments as a senator and as secretary of state. I did not get much by way of specific things for which she was clearly responsible.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12779238 (senator)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12779243 (Secretary of State)

In fact, one DUer said it didn't even matter if she had accomplished anything as Secretary of State!

I had forgotten about the daily kos article until I watched on DU this morning a video of Mark Halperin interviewing Democrats in iowa While some claimed that Hillary's stint as Secretary of State meant she had foreign policy expertise, none of them could answer Halperin's question about her accomplishments while Secretary of State.

See also http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/05/20/iowa-democrats-cant-name-a-single-accomplishment-of-hillary-clintons-as-secretary-of-state-does-it-matter/

I think that, if Hillary makes it to the general, more and more will be made of all three points cited in the Daily Kos article. Will anyone be so indelicate as to point them out during the primary? Dunno.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/13/1255276/-3-Big-Reasons-Hillary-Clinton-Should-Never-Be-President#

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Excellent points, and questions... truebluegreen Jul 2015 #1
Thank you. merrily Jul 2015 #2
Well, there's Burma... TreasonousBastard Jul 2015 #3
'calming hotspots' is one of those sort of vague Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #4
True-- the best that can be said is that she didn't... TreasonousBastard Jul 2015 #5
"Obviously" being perhaps the key word. That we know of yet. merrily Jul 2015 #10
Can you say a bit more about Burma, please. merrily Jul 2015 #7
That was the first American visit in 50 years... TreasonousBastard Jul 2015 #20
Thank you. OK she visited for the first time. Obama, too. Whose idea? Did it have to do with TPP? merrily Jul 2015 #22
Probably nothing to do with the TPP... TreasonousBastard Jul 2015 #25
Obama's presence was a much bigger deal than Hillary's. I also see nothing to indicate merrily Jul 2015 #26
as SOS, she helped multinational corporations and helped draft the TPP antigop Jul 2015 #6
And there we come to the crux of the matter. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #8
her undersecretary for economic growth: former vice chair Goldman Sachs antigop Jul 2015 #11
+100 nt antigop Jul 2015 #13
+1000 kath Jul 2015 #32
Helping multinationals is undoubtedly a large part of the responsibilities of any SOS. merrily Jul 2015 #9
Erich's post #8 above... antigop Jul 2015 #12
Should we actually accept that? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #14
I wish we had public owned utilities, grocery stores and gas stations. but we don't Sunlei Jul 2015 #16
You probably know my answers, right? merrily Jul 2015 #21
Well, I would hope they're the same as mine, but you did repeat the idea that Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #23
I was describing what I believe to be currently the reality, not what I would like to see or what I merrily Jul 2015 #24
PS. Just noticed: I also called it a form of corporate welfare. merrily Jul 2015 #27
no, we should not. I know you didn't address the question to me. nt antigop Jul 2015 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Sunlei Jul 2015 #15
I don't actually know what Obama is or is not over or who he trusts. merrily Jul 2015 #17
I don't mean blindly follow Obamas choices, but at this point his opinion carries a lot of weight to Sunlei Jul 2015 #18
No, you shouldn't delete it. Nothing was wrong with it as far as the forum. merrily Jul 2015 #19
The Peter Principle. SheilaT Jul 2015 #28
Never read it. However, the Kos article went well beyond saying that SOS was the only merrily Jul 2015 #29
Your points are valid but the Kos article is a hit piece Warpy Jul 2015 #31
The daily kos article is harshly written, undoubtedly. merrily Jul 2015 #33
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