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jtuck004

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17. When the Federation of Labor was trying to kill the CIO, some at the CIO
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 02:06 PM
Jan 2015

argued that they should join, to try and change the AF of L from the inside.

One can read Matles book "Them and Us" (as well as others) for more info. If you haven't you probably should anyway. That and "Wanted: Men to Fill the Jails of Spokane: Fighting for Free Speech with the Hobo Agitators of the I.W.W". Both are educational, though the second one has nothing to do with the subject.

Some of the more experienced and passionate forces attempted to show that trying to change the business-oriented Federation would result in the destruction of the CIO, that the strength of the working person was in each other, but that they needed to control the decision making. The CIO (and the IWW folks among them) they were about as successful as Jimmy Carter was in getting everyone to recognize their self interest, and in the end the allied forces of business, trade unions, and the government destroyed their movement, and the CIO was subsumed into the AF of L. And here we are.

I suspect a "reform" would be a good way to keep busy while more people get used to living with less, but I don't see any force from inside being potentially as strong as what is happening outside, and I don't mean the other party, such as it is. And it isn't necessarily positive.


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it can't happen soon enough eom whereisjustice Jan 2015 #1
Great work, Sabrina. Jackpine Radical Jan 2015 #2
There's never a wrong time, just the wrong people Demeter Jan 2015 #3
"Populist Reform of the Democratic Party" - never gonna happen. n/t jtuck004 Jan 2015 #4
Both parties suck on the corporate $$$ teat... L0oniX Jan 2015 #8
Mergers are all the rage these days. n/t jtuck004 Jan 2015 #13
It's as inevitable as water moving mountains. grahamhgreen Jan 2015 #12
Why do you think that? Polls show that a majority of the people support Progressive sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #14
Joseph in Egypt was the first Keynsian..... Mustellus Jan 2015 #5
Thanks I like that. I will definitely use it for my fundy adversaries! sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #15
If it should happen here in the US RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #6
The oligarchy must be over thrown. L0oniX Jan 2015 #7
Maybe the US needs a third party on the left LiberalLovinLug Jan 2015 #9
Thanks for this very insightful post, LLL. RiverLover Jan 2015 #10
Yes, the big question is 'can the Democratic Party be taken back from the Third Way sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #16
It has to be bottom up and not focus on top down! KoKo Jan 2015 #20
K&R! Populist Reform of the Democratic Party isn't a choice, it is essential. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #11
When the Federation of Labor was trying to kill the CIO, some at the CIO jtuck004 Jan 2015 #17
Could you elaborate on the last part of your last paragraph? I do not want to misunderstand sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #18
What it says to me is that the power of goodness is nothing compared to the power of badness. rhett o rick Jan 2015 #22
Recommend....Green Shoots of Populism appearing Globally KoKo Jan 2015 #19
The embers of a revolution (peaceful) are smoldering. At some point they will rhett o rick Jan 2015 #21
This is why defeating TPP is critical - TBF Jan 2015 #23
Yes, exactly. Corps have been global for a long time. Now the Working Class is beginning sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #25
Is it 1968 again? Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #24
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