Populist Reform of the Democratic Party

swilton

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17. But Independents

Tue Dec 2, 2014, 03:15 PM

Dec 2014

still end up having to vote for either one of the two big parties. Yes there is some G/P S/P token representation....but the big parties aren't really threatened by low turn-out...

Nor do they seem to be able to read tea-leaves and want to reform. After all, the idea of reform would be logical to those of us who don't run the world and are under the illusion that the big politicians are in their line of work for altruistic reasons. Nothing could be further from the truth....It's a game of power and narcissism and greed....

The politicians are out of step with their constituents and rather than responding to the 2014 debacle with some insightful reforms and 'we hear ye' messages, they will circle the wagons to shield themselves. Yes, Steve Israel is a typical example of this. I don't for one minute think that the so-called elevation of Elizabeth Warren has any meaning...It's more of a move to keep an eye on her and act like they are responding to the massesl

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Looking At The Fault Lines, Reading The Tremors - Is A SPLIT COMING In The Democratic Party? [View all] Segami Dec 2014 OP

The tactic to prevent a rift in the Party is to tell Progressives and Liberals Maedhros Dec 2014 #1

Bring it on. Wellstone ruled Dec 2014 #2

Republicans should return to their own party. nt MannyGoldstein Dec 2014 #3

^^^this^^^ dflprincess Dec 2014 #13

Split the Dems = Unending GOP governments Bragi Dec 2014 #4

And the alternative -- the ONLY alternative -- is to let the GOP get everything they want FiveGoodMen Dec 2014 #8

Which only demonstrates the fact..... DeSwiss Dec 2014 #11

But, but, but if our party is divided we'll also split our votes. That would mean ... Scuba Dec 2014 #5

No thelordofhell Dec 2014 #6

I suspect if Democrats are able to nominate AtomicKitten Dec 2014 #7

Nothing will focus the Democratic Party and its base customerserviceguy Dec 2014 #9

Thanks for pulling that post together... KoKo Dec 2014 #10

If we put out "The Clintons", then we will lose. HRC has all the right wing war mongering/corporate peacebird Dec 2014 #18

I'd say there's a gaping chasm already showing. DeSwiss Dec 2014 #12

Seems their campaigns have merged by the looks of things... Segami Dec 2014 #14

Great quote. It's the same coin though. DeSwiss Dec 2014 #16

Sounds like you're ready for the streets. Eleanors38 Dec 2014 #23

And what of a 3-party system, which in fact we have, but the third party is always minimized. mother earth Dec 2014 #21

Yes, I want a say in the collapse. Eleanors38 Dec 2014 #24

There IS a HUGE split in the base of the Democratic Party. As for elected officials, not so much sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #15

But Independents swilton Dec 2014 #17

Well, that is true, Independents do have to vote for one or the other. sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #19

This is the first time I find this group, and I totally agree with what you just said. I think you mother earth Dec 2014 #20

I am not sure what it is coming. merrily Dec 2014 #22