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discntnt_irny_srcsm

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Fri May 24, 2013, 10:42 AM May 2013

What are numbers? [View all]

We use numbers every day, but taking a step back, what are they, really — and why do they do such a damn good job of helping us explain the universe (such as Newtonian laws)? Mathematical structures can consist of numbers, sets, groups, and points — but are they real objects, or do they simply describe relationships that necessarily exist in all structures? Plato argued that numbers were real (it doesn't matter that you can't "see" them), but formalists insisted that they were merely formal systems (well-defined constructions of abstract thought based on math). This is essentially an ontological problem, where we're left baffled about the true nature of the universe and which aspects of it are human constructs and which are truly tangible.

http://io9.com/5945801/8-philosophical-questions-that-well-never-solve


Number's are an abstract concept. They are our answer to the question, "How can I measure this?" To measure is to count.

The Hottentot language has the most primitive counting system in world. Hottentots have words for one, two and many. I infer that the concept of two implies the concept of 1/2. Numbers are man's concepts for solving the problem of needing to quantify and predict past and future observations of the world around him.

Have a great holiday.
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What are numbers? [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 OP
The human need to make human concepts a reality is pretty interesting. rrneck May 2013 #1
IMHO... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #2
Quotations discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #6
The only things that are really real ismnotwasm May 2013 #3
Smokey had the idea discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #5
Heh! ismnotwasm May 2013 #10
Math is a complex and universal language in order that we can communicate as precisely Tuesday Afternoon May 2013 #4
That and more :) discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #7
Math is a human trying to measure the distance of God. Tuesday Afternoon May 2013 #8
Does anyone know... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #9
Still there; Turns into a particle of course ismnotwasm May 2013 #11
Maybe... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #12
Oh my God ismnotwasm May 2013 #13
That's the particle that... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2013 #14
All kinds of different things are called numbers struggle4progress Jun 2013 #15
Yes but... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2013 #16
Dunno. The finite whole numbers admit two interpretations: struggle4progress Jun 2013 #17
Numbers as scalars are also a subset of... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2013 #18
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