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Lizzie Poppet

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4. This law won't survive a legal challenge.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 04:48 PM
Aug 2015

Washington has state-level preemption for gun laws. It's highly unlikely this law would survive a legal challenge on that basis, so arguments over its merit are probably moot.

Moreover, Seattle's city limits encompass only a fairly small part of the (enormous) Seattle metropolitan area. Only a rather small percentage of the area's gun shops are within Seattle city limits. It would take most Seattle gun owners a matter of only a few minutes to drive to a shop without the extra charges (even given Seattle's truly horrific traffic congestion). I'm not sure what this law's backers intended that it accomplish, really.

Personally, I wouldn't object to paying such a modest amount, despite the fact that like most shooters, my firearms will never be involved in incurring the cost to society of gun-related violence. Of course, that's assuming the money was actually going to be allocated to something that will do some good. Facilitating expanded background checks, funding gang outreach programs, what-have-you...

People who drive on US highways pay a fuel tax to maintain those highways, why isn't it appropriate for people who shoot to pay a tax to cover the cost to the state of that activity?


I think it's a stretch to consider, for example, my target shooting competition and practice as having anything whatsoever to do with the cost to society of criminal use of firearms. The only commonality is firearms themselves, and I think that's far too general a connection. Criminals seldom use rifles of any kind in their crimes, and high-end target rifles simply aren't seen in crime stats (handguns are the overwhelming choice). My gun use costs the state nothing. My car use does.

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Further evidence how infantile the whole psychology behind "heavily fortifying" yourself really is villager Aug 2015 #1
This is a classic form of what is called a Pigouvian tax in economic theory CTyankee Aug 2015 #2
Gun fanciers are antisocial. If they won't voluntarily modify their bad habit, tax the hell out of Hoyt Aug 2015 #3
This law won't survive a legal challenge. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #4
IIRC, most violent gun crime causing societal harm are by stolen guns or legal guns CTyankee Aug 2015 #5
So? And your point is? nt flamin lib Aug 2015 #7
hey, we're on the same side here. Handguns is what I should have said...sorry, my bad. CTyankee Aug 2015 #8
Sorry, I'm having a side bar with Lizzie Poppet r.e. flamin lib Aug 2015 #11
well, if you follow the reasoning of Pigou, you can have an activity that is legal and CTyankee Aug 2015 #15
My car doesn't cause potholes in El Paso but the fuel tax I pay in Dallas pays for those potholes flamin lib Aug 2015 #6
False argument? Nope. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #9
Well, we just don't get to pick and choose which taxes we pay. flamin lib Aug 2015 #10
Um...okay. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #12
Once again, the city attorney is basing the legality of the tax on the city's flamin lib Aug 2015 #13
We'll see how it turns out in court. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #14
Harper v. Virginia State Board of Elections Statistical Aug 2015 #16
State and local sales taxes are collected on guns and ammo. flamin lib Aug 2015 #17
A tax on everything is not comparable to a tax on excercising a right. Statistical Aug 2015 #18
Did you read your own link? A tax over $100000/year on ink for newspapers but not other ink users? flamin lib Aug 2015 #19
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