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jimmy the one

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28. veto power, ceu
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 07:49 AM
Jul 2013

ceunupe: The next big push will be national reciprocity and you will see that included in the next gun safety bills i predict as a carrot for the RKBA side balanced by expanded universal background checks..

I hope not & doubt it, that dems will include a concealed carry national reciprocity attachment to any dem proposed gun legislation (where all states must recognize anyone carrying a valid out of state ccw permit). I suspect & hope again that obama would veto any 'national reciprocity' proposal, unless a lot of concessions from the gun lobby, like awb & supermag bans. Just to get a bg check bill passed is absurd, it would be a gunnut big victory while a pyrrhic victory for obama.
For obama to approve 'national reciprocity' at this point where gunlobby spit in his face over guncontrol, be like winston churchill saying to hitler, after conquering 'czecho', poland, denmark, holland & norway, Oh (smiley face) go ahead & invade France & Belgium, we won't do anything about it.
National ccw reciprocity would weaken may issue states like calif, maryland, new york, & 5 others & DC - only 9 'states' but about 30% of total population of USA. There is considerable leeway in adjudging violations of new york city's gun laws, as demonstrated in a previous post where two people carrying guns plead to a misdemeanor & paid a fine, is all. The laws are intended to protect against willful violations, knowingly carrying concealed in nyc. If those 2 do it again tho, katy bar the door for them.

ceu: I personally Carry and my wife used to{, decided} to stop once our daughter started moving around and now just keeps her carry gun in the bio-metric lockbox in her vehicle.

I tentatively gather your daughter is a toddler, ADVICE PUT YOUR GUNS TO SLEEP. How many guns you have ceu? MINIMIZE. Store them in a safe, or lockbox in attic, or visit a buyback. If you absolutely must have a gun for your job, if you live higher crime or money carrier, keep ONE with a hard trigger pull & keep ammo separate, take the chance you'll be able to load it quick enough when hell bent thug comes around, it's a safety alternative to offset you leaving loaded gun where your kid(s) could find it. Your wifes gun should stay there until your daughter graduates highschool, in your car's biometric lockbox.

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My wife carries the 642 ileus Jul 2013 #1
BainsBane whats your take on this? ceonupe Jul 2013 #2
After talking with folks in the gungeon BainsBane Jul 2013 #3
Some gun nut came into this protected Group and alerted on your post. Results aren't back yet. Electric Monk Jul 2013 #14
I know who that was BainsBane Jul 2013 #15
Strangely, I still haven't got the jury results back. I wonder if the alerter got banned Electric Monk Jul 2013 #20
Huh? BainsBane Jul 2013 #21
Yes, I was a juror on that alert, over 3 hours ago, but still no jury results. Strange, indeed. nt Electric Monk Jul 2013 #22
The jury results just came in: 0-6 to leave it. I wonder what took so long? Electric Monk Jul 2013 #23
You just received the results? BainsBane Jul 2013 #25
I was on the jury Timbuk3 Jul 2013 #24
Whose grabbing your guns? BainsBane Jul 2013 #26
"gun grabbers" Skittles Jul 2013 #27
It's a misleading. Gun advocates refer to CO as a "shall issue" state. Robb Jul 2013 #4
that should then be classified as may issue BainsBane Jul 2013 #5
Court cases make it shall issue in CO ceonupe Jul 2013 #8
No, but thanks for playing. Robb Jul 2013 #9
Yes ceonupe Jul 2013 #10
No, I showed you the law. It is the sheriff's discretion. Robb Jul 2013 #11
you are right ceonupe Jul 2013 #19
Yes and no. gejohnston Jul 2013 #12
No. Statute does not require a specific reason. Robb Jul 2013 #13
CRS 18-12-203(2) gejohnston Jul 2013 #16
Naked men notwithstanding, you appear at odds with yourself. Robb Jul 2013 #17
not at all gejohnston Jul 2013 #18
States rejected shall issue ccw jimmy the one Jul 2013 #6
state prohibitions, discarded in modern era jimmy the one Jul 2013 #7
veto power, ceu jimmy the one Jul 2013 #28
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