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EarlG

(23,301 posts)
16. Not out of the question
Sun Dec 21, 2025, 02:42 PM
Dec 21

It would be a significant amount of work to create a new MIRT-type group with different powers to perform this role. If we were going to have new alerts for potentially fake information, I would prefer to either handle them myself or send them to Hosts. Potentially, we could alert all the Hosts of any forum on DU if a post in their forum was alerted for potentially fake information. They could then manually apply a label to the post if they agree. But again, this could only work if we were able to come up with a way to effectively send notifications which really are likely misinformation, without creating a flood of misfires and false positives.

With regard to that point, another problem here is that defining "fake information" might be more difficult than you expect. For example, what about jokes and parody? Does the Onion count? And if jokes are permitted (which I think they should be), where do you draw the line between what is considered a joke and what is considered deliberate misinformation? It can be easy to discuss this stuff in principle, but it gets a lot more difficult when you get down to writing actual rules and providing people with information about what they're supposed to be doing.

The more I think about this, the more I think that there might be a more straightforward solution than building out a bunch of new features to solve the problem. Fake information is becoming more of a problem on DU in the age of AI, but it's certainly not an overwhelming problem yet. So perhaps the solution is to have something more like the copyright alert. Copyright alerts go directly to me, and when I receive one I check out the post and if it is in violation of the copyright guidelines I can hit a link which sends an automatic copyright notification to the poster to let them know about it. After that, it's up to them to deal with it. We could perhaps set up something similar for potentially fake information, possibly in combination with some kind of labeling system that labels a post if I send a notification to the person who posted it.

I am concerned though that putting responsibility for dealing with this in the hands of one person (or a handful of people) is not the right way to deal with this. The reason I currently am happy with people repudiating fake information in replies is because it's fast, and it works. The more replies there are saying "this is fake," the better. Then readers who might have been fooled by the OP can take a second look and understand for themselves why what they're looking at might not be real. I think it better educates people to spot fake content in the long run.

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Yeah it's odd to me. I'll probably block said DUer Nittersing Dec 21 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author highplainsdem Dec 21 #3
That can make people who do that sort of thing - multiple DUers have, though fortunately it's rare - highplainsdem Dec 21 #4
I think it can be of some benefit to know what the propaganda happens to be. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #2
I agree with Irish Dem's post. First the incorrect post should be clearly tagged in a very conspicuous way. flashman13 Dec 21 #10
Yes this is the point. Irish_Dem Dec 21 #11
"We should never be censors, but should always strive to be educators." MichMan Dec 21 #12
I know that. Way too often it is because someone disagrees with the general DU consensus. flashman13 Dec 21 #25
I've become more sympathetic to this position but EarlG Dec 21 #5
Is it out of the question to have a designated committee for such? littlemissmartypants Dec 21 #7
One great thing about DU is I rarely if ever see fakes go unchallenged. paleotn Dec 21 #9
Not out of the question EarlG Dec 21 #16
I'd rather see critique than policing jmbar2 Dec 21 #21
I agree, I think it would be a mistake to punish people for posting fake news EarlG Dec 21 #24
How hard is it to add a new smilie? littlemissmartypants Dec 22 #29
I find the mention of treating it like copyright violations to be interesting MichMan Dec 21 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author littlemissmartypants Dec 22 #28
I understand, and sympathize. highplainsdem Dec 21 #8
Agree. A post that has been alerted as potentially fake should be highlit erronis Dec 21 #14
And sometimes people post something they didn't know was fake right before they go to bed, and highplainsdem Dec 21 #22
YES: It is beneficial to see fake information corrected in public... SWBTATTReg Dec 21 #6
Thank you - I have wanted this for years obamanut2012 Dec 21 #13
Guard the truth. Good advice. Thanks. twodogsbarking Dec 21 #15
I take it that you are not referring to the posts, increasingly using AI images, which are intended to be humorous. markodochartaigh Dec 21 #17
No, I'm not. I'm talking about serious deepfakes and fake quotes and fake news stories. And they highplainsdem Dec 21 #18
Hurts my ego but necessary SSJVegeta Dec 21 #19
I'm more than fine with this. LudwigPastorius Dec 21 #20
DU is a self policing site. Having been caught myself posting something not factual, I have learned to fact check surfered Dec 21 #23
When I see something that is dubious, I post rzemanfl Dec 21 #26
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