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nil desperandum

(654 posts)
18. I think
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 10:33 AM
Jan 2017

you touch upon a very important reality. People vote their paychecks or at least their concern about their paychecks.

When Forbes magazine tells you the only people to make real net worth gains over the last 8 years re the 1% while the middle stagnated and the lower income groups actually lost net worth you have a condition where the vast majority of workers like your neighbor have an immediate concern.

The immediate concerns about paychecks and the ability to take care of your family will always take precedent over loftier long term idealistic goals.

Your neighbor represents a lot of those voting for Trump, people who didn't care what he said or how he acted as long as he promised to help their paychecks.

Most voters are self centered and vote what they think is best for themselves and they don't much care about the guy next door, net worth and confidence in the ability to secure income are major motivators in every election.

I think your neighbor missed most of Trump's history, Trump is hardly a man of the people nor is he any friend to labor. Your neighbor will most likely be disappointed along with all of the rest of the nation.

We need to capitalize on that reality and work to win back the house/senate in the mid-terms. And make sure we don't lose any more state houses along the way.

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My brother, a union guy, didn't know shit about politics but hew knew Bill Clinton signed NAFTA. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #1
Yup. elleng Jan 2017 #6
Clinton Support Of NAFTA Was A Huge Huge Mistake. Workers Blame Him. TheMastersNemesis Jan 2017 #7
This is the single most issue to get tossed at Democrats. Wellstone ruled Jan 2017 #13
It isn't fair that the sins of the husband are visited upon the wife meow2u3 Jan 2017 #19
Hillary got Horse Collored Wellstone ruled Jan 2017 #21
U.S. President George H. W. Bush, Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney and Mexican President Carlo BlueStateLib Jan 2017 #16
Oh please... Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #20
Facts are stuborn things ... Transcript for 12/17/1992: Pres. Bush Signs NAFTA SFnomad Jan 2017 #22
What are you on about? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #27
Re: What are you on about? SFnomad Jan 2017 #28
I know and YOU know Clinton didn't think it up. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #29
Why are we having this discussion? SFnomad Jan 2017 #30
Yeah, well Bill Clinton signed NAFTA in to law. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #31
Must be nice to live in world that is so black and white n/t SFnomad Jan 2017 #32
Why don't union people blame the Republicans? yardwork Jan 2017 #34
Clinton got it modified, pushed hard for the final version, and signed it INTO LAW. Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #33
Uh I kinda don't wanna see what he will be able to do.... lunasun Jan 2017 #2
Oh. I think he meant.... AJT Jan 2017 #3
Unfortunately, that's not what he meant. He walked away because he disagreed with me. C Moon Jan 2017 #4
Repug party has 'studiously' dumbed down the U.S., elleng Jan 2017 #5
Limiting one's thinking to 140 characters... 3catwoman3 Jan 2017 #10
Absolutely! elleng Jan 2017 #11
Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #8
Name them. shraby Jan 2017 #9
:D Have a nice stay. C Moon Jan 2017 #12
Disappointing when we know what kind of a person dump is.. Cha Jan 2017 #14
Retired guy who "parties a lot"...tells me everything. Cattledog Jan 2017 #15
I talked to one a couple days ago. I made some kind of remark about doc03 Jan 2017 #17
Sadly, I think that "wall" bit worked well for Trump. C Moon Jan 2017 #25
You see the core of racism beneath the excuses and rationalizations. yardwork Jan 2017 #35
Right nt doc03 Jan 2017 #36
I think nil desperandum Jan 2017 #18
Sounds about right to me. C Moon Jan 2017 #23
Unions have got weaker and weaker hollowdweller Jan 2017 #24
Hope allows people to suspend critical thinking. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #26
He kinda wants to see what Trashbag will do to the country does he....well he is going to get his TrekLuver Jan 2017 #37
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