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2016 Postmortem

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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 10:42 AM Dec 2016

I'm not wasting my time trying to apologize for or "understand" racist people better. [View all]

I can accept that maybe some fraction of Trump voters are not actually racist, they are simply OK with racism and bigotry even though they are not racists and bigots themselves. I also get that, due to the inherent undemocratic nature of the electoral college, a system create to sustain slavery, the probably-racist-but-maybe-not votes are worth more than other votes.

So in light of that, if the Dem leadership, in their postmortem, decides that they need to do more to cater to quasi-racists, I will understand that. I am, after all, a pragmatist, and winning elections is important.

But let's not delude ourselves as to what's going on. The whole push against "identity politics" is basically saying, look, lots of people are somewhere on the racism spectrum, and putting emphasis on anti-racism and anti-discrimination in all forms alienates racist bigots, so to get a bigger chunk of the racist vote, given that racist votes count more than others, maybe talk more about other stuff and go easy on the anti-discrimination in parts of the country where people like discrimination.

It's nauseating, but maybe it has to be done. But it's extra nauseating when people to pretend that this isn't what's going on, that really it's about economics and not bigotry.

Fortunately, I'm not a politician, so I don't have to play that game myself. I don't have to worry that if I don't wink-wink-nudge-nudge to the racist portion of the electorate, voters might think I'm part of the "liberal elite". This last election was a big victory for racism and bigotry. That's why white supremacists and neo-Nazis are the ones celebrating the most. And as a non-politician, I don't have to pretend that losing your job is an excuse for hating minorities and women and LGBT and Muslims and everyone else.

And the other thing I don't need to do is feel sympathy for the segment of the white working class that voted against their own economic interests because they like racism more than they like having a decent paying job. Notice that I said "segment". Even in those 80-20 Trump coal country towns we read about, 20% of the electorate are decent people. And if we grant that some of the Trump voters are just idiots, as opposed to racists, maybe that's 30%. For those people I do feel sympathy.

But overall, Trump put racism on the ballot, and racism won. Yeah, Russia/Comey/emails/media/etc. played a big role. But in terms of substance, this election was about racism and bigotry.

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Considering the rise of far right nationalist parties in many other western countries mythology Dec 2016 #1
DU rec... SidDithers Dec 2016 #2
+1, if it was a bunch of racist Hispanic people I don't think the question would even come up !!! uponit7771 Dec 2016 #3
Good point. tenorly Dec 2016 #10
And this talk of the dem party catering to trump voters must be going beyond dem forums like this lunasun Dec 2016 #4
Good post, and it should also be expected that a certain R B Garr Dec 2016 #5
Yes. We do understand racists. treestar Dec 2016 #6
The GOP would cease to be a viable institution if not for bigotry. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #7
Yup, it's extra nauseating when Dems pretend the racism and bigotry pnwmom Dec 2016 #8
Especially when all of the evidence disputes the economy/anti-establishment narrative. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #9
No, social issues dominated her campaign & the majority of people who voted for Trump aren't racist. RBInMaine Dec 2016 #13
The actual evidence says different, and it's been posted many times already. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #15
No, it didn't. Her speeches were analyzed and her number one topic was jobs, pnwmom Dec 2016 #20
The majority who voted for Trump aren't racist atreides1 Dec 2016 #26
Trump voters voted for a racist True_Blue Dec 2016 #11
OK, Well I guess everyone who voted for Obama but went to Trump are just all racists. Sheesh. RBInMaine Dec 2016 #12
That's a tiny number of people, and I don't know if they're racist or not. DanTex Dec 2016 #14
Read this: Garrett78 Dec 2016 #16
What do you think White voters would do True_Blue Dec 2016 #17
Some of them are misogynists and others are anti-immigrant, pnwmom Dec 2016 #21
Catering to racists is just smarmy but nonsensical code for refusal to address working TheKentuckian Dec 2016 #18
"Favoring broad poverty"? Are you kidding? You seriously think the Dems favor broad poverty? DanTex Dec 2016 #19
Hillary's #1 topic in her speeches was jobs, and her #2 was the economy. pnwmom Dec 2016 #22
So okay... fuck the Trump voters. Now who is left? Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #23
Seriously... many were Obama voters in 2008 & 2012... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #24
yeah, I'm not what you would call a math expert Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #25
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