2016 Postmortem

Yurovsky

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44. Honest? Seriously?

Wed Dec 28, 2016, 09:36 AM

Dec 2016

Look, I am an admitted Bernie supporter who voted for Hillary, but "honesty" was never her strong suit. Competence and work ethic she has in spades, and that's what would've made her a far better POTUS than Trump. I think she was more qualified than Bernie as well, I just didn't care for her coziness with Wall Street and stance (as recent as her Senate days) opposing marriage equality. But she did come around eventually on the latter... the former not so much.

As for her honesty, I defer to the wise words of President Harry S. Truman, who said you can't get rich in politics, unless you're a crook. Bernie spent a life in politics and had a net worth of around $700k at the start of the primaries. Hillary, meanwhile... it's champagne wishes and caviar dreams. I'm not saying she obtained it illegally, but I do question the morality of taking $250k from a college for a speech when young people are drowning in debt from these same colleges. it just flunks the smell test IMHO.

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Those who say "Americans will never vote for a Socialist Jew" are revealing their own prejudice [View all] YoungDemCA Dec 2016 OP

Do you really think Bernie Sanders will run again? underthematrix Dec 2016 #1

I don't have a crystal ball YoungDemCA Dec 2016 #2

I doubt that he will. potone Dec 2016 #3

You are conveniently leaving things out of the mix. NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #4

There's an irony to your post vs your avatar. Exilednight Dec 2016 #8

Further... Me. Dec 2016 #27

Socialist is confusing HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #37

Those who say "Americans will never vote for a woman" are revealing their own misogyny. baldguy Dec 2016 #5

Nice hijack. JudyM Dec 2016 #15

Nice drive-by. baldguy Dec 2016 #16

You might want to actually give some thought to the O.P. It's a matter of insensitivity. JudyM Dec 2016 #17

Perhaps if you actually read my post #5 and put some thought in refuting it. baldguy Dec 2016 #23

It is a hijack that you won't own as such. You're not fooling anyone. JudyM Dec 2016 #25

So, you've got false accusations, empty bluster & absolutly nothing to back it up. baldguy Dec 2016 #32

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Poor Jeb! Everyone thought he was the smart one lol now look at him NWCorona Dec 2016 #7

You mean like people ducking guilt Jakes Progress Dec 2016 #9

No, that has nothing to do with what I was saying. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #11

Or you could. Jakes Progress Dec 2016 #13

That he was Jakes Progress Dec 2016 #10

What was the problem, then? Unkempt eyebrows? Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #12

Your post does not address mine. Jakes Progress Dec 2016 #14

This was not a conventional wisdom year, that was my original point. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #19

Again. Jakes Progress Dec 2016 #21

let me see if I can put your logic, here, together. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #22

Funny Jakes Progress Dec 2016 #36

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""Not with all of the massive baggage he had." YoungDemCA Dec 2016 #35

Her "baggage" was false. Jakes Progress Dec 2016 #38

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Tell me a lie she told. Jakes Progress Dec 2016 #45

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