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2016 Postmortem

Yurovsky

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13. But people are trying to blame anyone and everyone except...

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 27, 2016, 09:33 PM

Dec 2016

for Clinton and her campaign staff.

I think she made an epic error in judgement by utilizing a personal server and squeezing every individual, company, and foreign government for donations to her foundation and/or her campaign. If she had used the government servers at the Dept of State, she would be measuring the Oval Office for drapes.

As for Podesta & Mook, they ignored Bill Clinton's advice to spend more resources in the Midwest, and, well, that was a serious fuck up, to put it mildly.

Certainly the Comey letter wasn't helpful, and the Russians being involved in trying to impact the race is bad (but the US has never had a problem interfering with other nations' elections). There were other negative factors as well, but we should not absolve Clinton or her campaign team from any complicity in this failure. $1.2 BILLION... Let that number soak in a minute...

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How Analytics Failed Clinton [View all] applegrove Dec 2016 OP

Well, that was a bit of a cock-up, wasn't it? The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #1

How about Robby Mook then? HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #2

If he was the one making those decisions, then yes. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #3

Almost everyone in the campaign leadership except Jake Sullivan and Bill Clinton NWCorona Dec 2016 #6

Oh I think there were 20 reasons for the loss. This is just the latest. And one applegrove Dec 2016 #9

But people are trying to blame anyone and everyone except... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #13

Even the email server mistake wouldn't have come back to bite her The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #14

Exactly-despite the other mistakes and forces beyond their control- Yurovsky Dec 2016 #17

It blows my mind that they can't admit even the tiniest mistake... dionysus Dec 2016 #24

I doubt we will ever see a politician as smart as Bill Clinton ever again AngryAmish Dec 2016 #19

It's like if the Cavs benched LeBron in game 7... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #20

Nope... Clinton didn't county on Comey, Voter Suppression and Russia.. uponit7771 Dec 2016 #4

Any campaign has to consider the possibility of an October surprise, The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #7

Not via treason... that's an impossible bar uponit7771 Dec 2016 #11

The Iowa head fake was a nice touch, too BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #5

Hubris. How many times did we hear, "She's got this" on DU? jalan48 Dec 2016 #8

and how many times did we hear we "believed we were smarter?" Which we weren't. Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #10

And the Trump campaign stated in PLAIN ENGLISH... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #18

3 words: Out of Touch. Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #21

On Oct 18, AZ was a tossup HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #22

AZ was never in play. former9thward Dec 2016 #29

Every time I read things like this, it makes me angry. Nedsdag Dec 2016 #12

Well, OrwellwasRight Dec 2016 #23

Though I still voted vote her, the HRC die hards here told us to shut up and deal with it Dustlawyer Dec 2016 #26

Hear, hear. OrwellwasRight Dec 2016 #28

"Never campaign on the basis that it is 'your turn' ". Ken Burch Dec 2016 #31

And then there was the big red shift between exit polls and the supposed "actual" vote progree Dec 2016 #15

Exit polls are crap mythology Dec 2016 #16

This one was within her campaign's control. They screwed the pooch big time on this. Exilednight Dec 2016 #25

I saw her ads in Kansas citood Dec 2016 #27

It was always delusional to think we were going to flip a ton of red states. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #30