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Jakes Progress

(11,212 posts)
21. Again.
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 03:24 AM
Dec 2016

The point isn't that this wasn't a normal year. Not being a normal year isn't what would keep Sanders from winning. People didn't flock to trump because they wanted to vote for Bernie. Actually, they didn't flock at all. He still got the vote of only about a quarter of the electorate.

If, as you contend, Sanders was just a flawed sexist and bum like trump, and they didn't mind trump being crude, why would they vote for Sanders?

You are sort of all over the place with this. Arguing that Sanders is like trump and like bush is not making your case. Sanders was promising stuff he couldn't deliver and never put forth a solid plan for anything. I started out trying to support Bernie, but grew tired of his endless, empty rhetoric. And your contention that "everybody" knew about his rape essay and living on unemployment (not the same as living off daddy like bush did) is not accurate. If you didn't really go looking, that story was under wraps. The media kept it out of sight because they needed the drama of a contested Democratic primary for their ratings.

You are quite accurate about the comey comments. Do you really think they couldn't have done the same hatchet job on Sanders? Hillary won the damn election. She didn't lose great swaths of the voters. And you know that if the election were reheld just two days after the voting, she would have won in a landslide. My beef is with the "democrats" who ran with the right wing memes about Hillary all the way up to the election. They suppressed the vote. My particular beef with Bernie is his taking his ball and going home after the drug out the primary sniping at Hillary. Then he would sulkily endorse her. After he spent four months too long questioning her judgement.

And I'll agree that this wasn't a normal year. But not because there is a giant wave of proletariat ready to rise up and cast off their capitalist oppressors. Hell, 25% voted for a pretend billionaire. They want to be just like him. The Democratic message (while too conservative for my tastes) resonates with people overwhelmingly. What made this an abnormal year is the media collusion, crooked fbi assholes, idiot third party fools, and absolute lack of any morals for ethics by the opposition. Trying to be more like republicans is not going to win us any election that will produce progress.

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Do you really think Bernie Sanders will run again? underthematrix Dec 2016 #1
I don't have a crystal ball YoungDemCA Dec 2016 #2
I doubt that he will. potone Dec 2016 #3
You are conveniently leaving things out of the mix. NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #4
There's an irony to your post vs your avatar. Exilednight Dec 2016 #8
Further... Me. Dec 2016 #27
Socialist is confusing HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #37
Those who say "Americans will never vote for a woman" are revealing their own misogyny. baldguy Dec 2016 #5
Nice hijack. JudyM Dec 2016 #15
Nice drive-by. baldguy Dec 2016 #16
You might want to actually give some thought to the O.P. It's a matter of insensitivity. JudyM Dec 2016 #17
Perhaps if you actually read my post #5 and put some thought in refuting it. baldguy Dec 2016 #23
It is a hijack that you won't own as such. You're not fooling anyone. JudyM Dec 2016 #25
So, you've got false accusations, empty bluster & absolutly nothing to back it up. baldguy Dec 2016 #32
One thing you'll notice about conventional wisdom, no matter how often it is proven wrong Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #6
Poor Jeb! Everyone thought he was the smart one lol now look at him NWCorona Dec 2016 #7
You mean like people ducking guilt Jakes Progress Dec 2016 #9
No, that has nothing to do with what I was saying. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #11
Or you could. Jakes Progress Dec 2016 #13
That he was Jakes Progress Dec 2016 #10
What was the problem, then? Unkempt eyebrows? Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #12
Your post does not address mine. Jakes Progress Dec 2016 #14
This was not a conventional wisdom year, that was my original point. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #19
Again. Jakes Progress Dec 2016 #21
let me see if I can put your logic, here, together. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #22
Funny Jakes Progress Dec 2016 #36
Labels can be useful but they can also become blinders. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #39
That's a tough clip to watch... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #43
Yep. Sanders was simply not a serious contender. duffyduff Dec 2016 #34
""Not with all of the massive baggage he had." YoungDemCA Dec 2016 #35
Her "baggage" was false. Jakes Progress Dec 2016 #38
Honest? Seriously? Yurovsky Dec 2016 #44
Tell me a lie she told. Jakes Progress Dec 2016 #45
His religion has nothing to do with it...he's just far to left in his policies for swing voters NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #18
Well stupid people think a democratic socialist is someone that hates capitalism. Rex Dec 2016 #20
And the really dumb ones mythology Dec 2016 #41
True! And when they 'throw' it in your face you have to look at them like Rex Dec 2016 #42
The ruling class likes the peons hating one another while they enjoy their tax breaks. jalan48 Dec 2016 #24
2016: "Americans will never vote for a narcissistic orange p*ssy-grabbing The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #26
There is a long list of Sanders objections. gordianot Dec 2016 #28
Oh, it's not ME! HassleCat Dec 2016 #29
getting away from the specific people involved, the logic of the o.p. is simply not compelling. unblock Dec 2016 #30
The constitution says MFM008 Dec 2016 #31
Election is over hollowdweller Dec 2016 #33
I'm Jewish and I would never vote for Bernie Sanders Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2016 #40
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