2016 Postmortem

NoGoodNamesLeft

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4. Those people were attracted to the message of CHANGE both times

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 09:27 PM

Dec 2016

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that Washington is broken and needs drastic change. Obama represented positive change on a message of Hope. Because Obama was blocked at doing a great deal of the things he wanted to do people were frustrated and angry that more has not changed. So along came Trump who used his slimy sales and marketing abilities to tap into and exploit that anger and frustration. He campaigned on a more negative "Blow the bastards up" type of change. This is what happened in the rust belt and led to Trump winning. So many people calling these voters racists/sexists and bigots is inaccurate and a massive mistake. These voters are likely to vote AGAINST Trump next time IF Democrats don't screw up and alienate them. Many on this site are trying damn hard to do that and it would be the absolute WORST thing to do.

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Did those white folks that switched really vote for Obama or for campaign Obama? [View all] djsunyc Dec 2016 OP

I don't believe they voted for Obama in 08 or 12....nt asuhornets Dec 2016 #1

My Brother Voted for Obama, then Romney, then Trump hollowdweller Dec 2016 #9

Whoa!!! Did he say why he voted for Romney and Trump? Just wondering...nt asuhornets Dec 2016 #15

Me either True_Blue Dec 2016 #16

Neither do I. Igel Dec 2016 #31

Shitler is not charismatic IMO onecaliberal Dec 2016 #2

Very few of the so-called white working class flipped allegiances. TheLibIn615 Dec 2016 #3

+1, due to voter suppression...41000 estimate in WI uponit7771 Dec 2016 #22

If that were truly the case, what explains the flipping of Maine's 2nd Congressional District? PotatoChip Dec 2016 #35

Those people were attracted to the message of CHANGE both times NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #4

We've chatted on this before... JHan Dec 2016 #6

Just scanning over them they look interesting NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #19

there weren't that many. about equal number voted for Hillary and mccain/romney JI7 Dec 2016 #5

It probably depends on the state. Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #7

You pretty much nailed it. Exilednight Dec 2016 #11

You know 17 people who voted Obama then Trump? Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #14

None of them liked Hillary. Exilednight Dec 2016 #17

"There's a lot of history behind her, and it's not easily dismissed. " EL34x4 Dec 2016 #24

Don't include me in your "we". Exilednight Dec 2016 #26

My point was that posts that brought up Hillary's negatives... EL34x4 Dec 2016 #27

I think after the GWB presidency more people are against any kind of dynasty elections Reality101 Dec 2016 #36

They didn't. This is a media bullshit narrative. duffyduff Dec 2016 #8

even the REagan Democrats were mainly dixiecrats JI7 Dec 2016 #10

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #21

Evidence that this is a "bullshit median narrative?" YoungDemCA Dec 2016 #33

2 of my cousins HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #12

Something pretty clearly happened in the upper midwest. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #13

We not going to learn from it n/t Lurks Often Dec 2016 #29

Those who voted for tRumputin ... LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #18

Yes but Obama wasn't running against an overt racist uponit7771 Dec 2016 #20

The Counties That Flipped From Obama To Trump, In 3 Charts Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #23

25 years of lies and smears combined with voter suppression,vote flipping and Russian hacking libtodeath Dec 2016 #25

I know more than a few who did... vi5 Dec 2016 #28

It wouldn't surprise me if some white voters switched to Trump after seeing... Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #30

Yes, they did. And yes, they voted for the charisma. Tatiana Dec 2016 #32

The meme that they were Obama voters was made up whole cloth by the Bro's. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #34