2016 Postmortem

Gothmog

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49. Most of Sanders so-called victories were in caucuses

Reply to La Lioness Priyanka (Original post)

Thu Dec 22, 2016, 10:32 AM

Dec 2016

Sanders did not come close to getting enough votes to be the nominee.
http://pleasecutthecrap.com/a-message-for-hardcore-bernie-stans/

Hillary Cinton won the nomination because of democracy. She received more than 57% of Democratic votes cast. Bernie Sanders virtually only won caucuses, which are the least democratic aspect of the primary process. And most of those he won only because she decided to save her money for the General election. He won very few primaries, except for his “home states” and Michigan and his clock was cleaned in virtually every other state that mattered. Demographically, he only won white liberals. The fact that YOU think he made it close, or only lost because of “Super Delegates” is a hallmark of your delusion. Bernie Stans largely didn’t seem to notice that she reached out to you repeatedly and you bit her hand off, making you more like Republicans than you should be comfortable with.

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Hillary won 13 out of the 23 open primaries [View all] La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 OP

Democrats should choose their nominee. I do not want someone who isn't a Democrat still_one Dec 2016 #1

That's a fine view to hold. What I don't like La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #2

You are absolutely right Priyanka still_one Dec 2016 #4

Who cares any more. It's all,over. pangaia Dec 2016 #3

People who want to learn lessons and make changes do La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #5

+1 Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2016 #6

Maybe just ignore this forum then. This is the postmortem forum. JTFrog Dec 2016 #7

You have no idea whether that would be true or not. Kentonio Dec 2016 #8

Ok, but any data that currently exists supports my hypothesis La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #9

There is no data to support either argument. Kentonio Dec 2016 #11

There is data clearly demonstrating that she wins La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #12

Ok, so if we also have 'data' showing that more people wearing blue in debates Kentonio Dec 2016 #13

The former has causation, yours merely correlation. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #15

I was using a reductio ad absurdum of course Kentonio Dec 2016 #16

Good luck winning the Dem. Party nomination without doing well in the South. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #21

You mean like all those caucuses Sanders won? mythology Dec 2016 #41

Why don't we find out next time by making them all open primaries? Kentonio Dec 2016 #42

Nothing cuts off potential voters the way a caucus does. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #43

I'm fine with doing away with caususes. Kentonio Dec 2016 #44

But she didn't win them all so WhiteTara Dec 2016 #10

No doubt about it. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #14

Yeah, kid gloves Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2016 #18

They didn't touch him. Complete kid gloves. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #19

Hardly anyone made mention of Bernie's rape article, association with communists, etc. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #20

Yeah. Nobody talked about except CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC... Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2016 #25

See my response below. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #40

the eichenwald essay happened after the election La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #22

I'm aware of that. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2016 #23

it was never fully exploited, there were no add run on it La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #24

. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2016 #26

jake tapper was a clinton surrogate? La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #29

Wait. What are discussing here? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2016 #34

Clinton never exploited these giant flaws in Sanders. That is my point. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #38

Yes Jake Tapper and all of them - Clinton Surrogates. JHan Dec 2016 #37

Yeah, that about sums it up. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #32

You were so engaged you skipped the debates? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2016 #27

again he was asked during a debate. this is not a clinton add, or a clinton high level surrogate La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #35

Not playing these silly games. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2016 #45

actually Tapper does a lot of reporting. just because you think Sanders should have been the nominee La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #46

Do away with caucuses and have every primary be open or semi-open. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #17

If she was not our nominee we would not have president trump bowens43 Dec 2016 #28

it does make a literal trend, it is the majority of open primaries La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #33

Sad you have to say this. It like people make their own reality up and live by it bravenak Dec 2016 #30

in this fantasy Clinton only wins rigged closed primaries La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #31

He could only beat her in caucuses where working people had no time to attend bravenak Dec 2016 #36

I really want to get rid of the undemocratic caucuses Gothmog Dec 2016 #39

Kick for facts then.. they're always interesting. Cha Dec 2016 #47

Of course, but if you want to talk about the conditions of that primary you have to talk about what JCanete Dec 2016 #48

Most of Sanders so-called victories were in caucuses Gothmog Dec 2016 #49