2016 Postmortem

still_one

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56. they sure were, and the fact that Russ Feingold, and every Democrat running for Senate in a swing

Thu Dec 22, 2016, 10:23 AM

Dec 2016

state lost to the establishment, incumbent republican, was a result of enough self-identified progressives, not just refusing to vote for Hillary, but also not voting down ticket.

In Wisconsin, if everyone who voted third party, had voted down ticket for Feingold, Russ would be the Senator today. In fact Russ lost by a bigger percentage than Hillary, and while if everyone who voted for Jill Stein voted for Hillary, she would have won Wisconsin, the fact that Russ Feingold lost by a much greater percentage is really sad. This pattern was also not unique to Wisconsin.

In Michigan, Hillary lost by .3%. Jill Stein received 1.1% of the vote. Pennsylvania, very similar along with other states

There is no excuse why we didn't win the Senate race in those critical swing states, and thus control the Senate.

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Team Bernie: "Hillary f*cking ignored us in swing states" [View all] Fiendish Thingy Dec 2016 OP

Interesting read. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #1

And what fomented the loss of Indys, X-Over Reps and Millennials? HRC selecting Kaine over Sanders TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #44

Much like the Gore team in 2000, the Clinton team was arrogant Chasstev365 Dec 2016 #2

They ignored their state campaigns too TexasBushwhacker Dec 2016 #32

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It was painful to watch. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #35

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I'm not surprised. PatsFan87 Dec 2016 #4

It sounds like it could just be sniping after a losing campaign mythology Dec 2016 #5

That attitude was seen here Goblinmonger Dec 2016 #18

Amazing when you think back on it... Hillary would have been wise to pick Bernie to be her running mate. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #36

I posted this here on DU...... Hillary should have picked Bernie Sanders as her VP UCmeNdc Dec 2016 #46

Yes, making Bernie the VP pick was an obvious move that would have GUARANTEED Hillary the Presidency... but, you just know her supporters would have gone ballistic. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #62

Nearly every day, this was brought up Bettie Dec 2016 #52

It is very frustrating. Goblinmonger Dec 2016 #63

I don't think it had anything to really do with Clinton herself Bettie Dec 2016 #68

Oh bullshit. ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #6

Plus 1000 duffyduff Dec 2016 #7

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If that's your takeaway... Fiendish Thingy Dec 2016 #13

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Many Sanders supporters were openly hostile during and after convention. Justice Dec 2016 #33

they sure were, and the fact that Russ Feingold, and every Democrat running for Senate in a swing still_one Dec 2016 #56

Except they seem to forget the changes made to the platform radical noodle Dec 2016 #37

they sound like fucking assholes. JI7 Dec 2016 #9

"She's Got This". jalan48 Dec 2016 #10

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You're angry? jalan48 Dec 2016 #26

Losing team giving a seminar on "how to win". Great! sign me up. oasis Dec 2016 #11

Which team was the "losing team"? Fiendish Thingy Dec 2016 #12

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Jeff Weaver's band of inept strategy advisors. emulatorloo Dec 2016 #61

Clinton lost, you know. Goblinmonger Dec 2016 #19

The Bernie team was done early on. So what's your point? oasis Dec 2016 #20

My point Goblinmonger Dec 2016 #64

If you find the time do do a little research you'll discover that Russian oasis Dec 2016 #65

"the Clinton machine didn't request nor require any help from the Bernie bunch." Goblinmonger Dec 2016 #66

There were many factors beyond HRC's control contributing to her loss Fiendish Thingy Dec 2016 #69

That being what it is. The fact that crucial swing states were ignored and lost NWCorona Dec 2016 #25

Me thinks the losing team that feels this way ought to go piss up a rope. n/t Lil Missy Dec 2016 #15

Team Bernie put fucking Cornel West on the platform committee at the Democratic Convention... SidDithers Dec 2016 #16

Cornel West should be permanently banned from any Democratic oasis Dec 2016 #22

Cornel West should be permanently banned from any Democratic. LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #39

What does the fact that West was on the committee have to do NWCorona Dec 2016 #27

It was a Fuck You to our President as well radical noodle Dec 2016 #38

This Bernie "I told you so" tour is not helpful and is getting old. n/t Yavin4 Dec 2016 #17

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It's happening on both sides. NWCorona Dec 2016 #28

No it is not. Justice Dec 2016 #29

We will just have to agree to disagree NWCorona Dec 2016 #31

Umm NWCorona Dec 2016 #34

??? Linked to a deleted post? Justice Dec 2016 #45

It wasn't always deleted NWCorona Dec 2016 #59

No. It's not. LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #48

We will just have to agree to disagree NWCorona Dec 2016 #60

They are right Truth321 Dec 2016 #30

That same fight continues today HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #40

It's over MFM008 Dec 2016 #41

Time to get over it bravenak Dec 2016 #42

Yep. A bunch of useful idiots. GoCubsGo Dec 2016 #67

Absolutely. NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #43

Amen Justice Dec 2016 #47

Of course, it goes both ways I'm sure. kcr Dec 2016 #49

They did. Kentonio Dec 2016 #53

Exhibit A, right here kcr Dec 2016 #54

This is spot on! Joe941 Dec 2016 #50

No crazycatlady Dec 2016 #58

I did all that I could to ignore them on Facebook Kolesar Dec 2016 #51

Let's not also forget.... vi5 Dec 2016 #55

We can get out and do shit ourselves treestar Dec 2016 #70