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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Hillary won 13 out of the 23 open primaries [View all]JCanete
(5,272 posts)48. Of course, but if you want to talk about the conditions of that primary you have to talk about what
things about our system benefitted Clinton, including timing of Sanders momentum, and media's absent to sporadic exposure of him as a candidate, with a favorite tactic being to introduce him with primary #'s that included super delegates, meaning the first time some people heard about him, they had every cause to write him off as a lost-cause candidate.
You and I have had a discussion about our corporate media, so you know that they were not going to give an assist to Sanders. Not to help him win it surely...on the other hand, to damage Clinton once it was pretty clear she had the primary in the bag? Hell yes!
I just think its important that you see why winning the primaries doesn't necessarily convince that they were conducted fairly or that anything about the David and Goliath battle was ever going to be fair given that they had entirely different funding mechanisms and levels of bankable political capital. You can feel good about her winning the primary, but in my mind it doesn't really mean that much about the campaign itself or the candidates relative to each other. It does say a lot about the coalitions that Clinton built and the cred she built up to get herself there, and that is in itself an amazing achievement, whether I like aspects of it or not. Few rise to that level of support within the establishment.
Still, I was a Bernie supporter from the beginning, but the result was expected, and really, never in doubt for me, because thumbs were on the scales...not nefariously in most cases...more just a natural consequence of people making sausage together and liking the same recipe....but they did add weight.
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Democrats should choose their nominee. I do not want someone who isn't a Democrat
still_one
Dec 2016
#1
Ok, so if we also have 'data' showing that more people wearing blue in debates
Kentonio
Dec 2016
#13
Hardly anyone made mention of Bernie's rape article, association with communists, etc.
Garrett78
Dec 2016
#20
Clinton never exploited these giant flaws in Sanders. That is my point.
La Lioness Priyanka
Dec 2016
#38
again he was asked during a debate. this is not a clinton add, or a clinton high level surrogate
La Lioness Priyanka
Dec 2016
#35
actually Tapper does a lot of reporting. just because you think Sanders should have been the nominee
La Lioness Priyanka
Dec 2016
#46
Sad you have to say this. It like people make their own reality up and live by it
bravenak
Dec 2016
#30