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JCanete

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15. YES! The only thing is that we keep thinking the media is shitty just because. Or maybe because
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 05:18 PM
Dec 2016

it always has to chase ratings.

neither are true. The media is not a news coverage institution, it is a news generation institution. It decides what it wants to make into news. It is very effective at making into news whatever it wants to. Granted, stories have to get traction, but a lot of shit gets thrown onto a wall, and the story that both sticks AND matches an outlet's sensibilities(put nicely), or agenda(put cynically), is the one that gets beaten over our heads until our dizzy asses are repeating it to people who never watch or listen to news, as fact. Ultimately truthiness prevails.

It is really important that when we hone in on the media, which we absolutely should be doing, we don't miss the underlying mechanisms. Their coverage simply cannot be disassociated from the interests of the parent companies that own them. Whether that influence comes in the flavor of marching orders(ala fox, but to some extent other news outlets---3 republicans for every dem on a panel was an old CNN thing, not to mention hiring CIA operatives), or is catering to the tastes of owners and producers, which might influence whether or not reporting on big advertisers or anything under the parent company's umbrella is tacitly or explicitly off-limits. I imagine that goes for other media giants too since nobody wants an arms race. Media ownership also ensures that pundits and reporters that get hired are "on the right page" when it comes to what kind of reporting is important, or understanding "what the people want to hear." That doesn't mean they don't put up any opposing voices to the thrust of an institution's overall lean. Just that the lean is still dominant and that those minority voices only help to lend an illusion of non-partisanship to it.

We can't have a fourth estate that is actually owned by the interests that it needs to be free to report on, not to mention hamstrings its ability to report on anything else objectively. But that is what we have. Every other thing that we point at when it comes to our loss in this election and all previous ones, is pointing in the wrong direction. I wish we could put it to rest, just in this microcosm that is DU, but maybe people just don't want to be that damn cynical or feel that helpless, and refuse to truly examine this key factor in American politics, favoring scapegoating Clinton for being a weak candidate, or Sanders for Bob's or Comey(he's a dick and in my book a criminal, don't get me wrong), or Russia(also Putin is a dick and a Demagogue), or fake news or "stupid racists."

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i'd file the email, benghazi, and clinton foundation stories under fake news as well. unblock Dec 2016 #1
And, of course, they have to tell "both sides." Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #9
I agree with the fact that the MSM failed, but with the numbers so close Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #2
But it was the "real news" that got it close to begin with... kentuck Dec 2016 #3
Again, I agree. I just think we also need to consider and try to combat Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #5
Absolutely! kentuck Dec 2016 #7
This is the problem with Dems. I can't tell you the number of BS chain emails Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #8
They have little regard for other people's feelings. kentuck Dec 2016 #14
That doesn't correlate with the election results though. Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #13
Airtime was the single biggest factor underpants Dec 2016 #4
exactly. interesting that she had big leads in the polls after the conventions and debates. unblock Dec 2016 #10
The. TV Media Made a God out of Trump McKim Dec 2016 #25
there were many things that went wrong. one is 8 year incumbency of one party La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #6
the gnewz trying to make their failure to expose RUMP + FELLATING him instead pansypoo53219 Dec 2016 #11
Nonsense it all boils down to not enough dems voting Ohioblue22 Dec 2016 #12
The media affects voter turn-out. The media affects American opinion on voter suppression and JCanete Dec 2016 #16
Well it's easy ignore the conservative media and vote for the Ohioblue22 Dec 2016 #17
still focusing on symptoms. If that's where you want to spend your energy, fine, but people aren't JCanete Dec 2016 #19
It seems that you see lack of voting as a symptom Ohioblue22 Dec 2016 #22
but registered democrats come in a range of packages...a wide fucking range of packages. The media JCanete Dec 2016 #23
Well the dems have been using this model of the voting Ohioblue22 Dec 2016 #24
YES! The only thing is that we keep thinking the media is shitty just because. Or maybe because JCanete Dec 2016 #15
They spent 3 time the number of hours on email than all other issues... fuck the M$M uponit7771 Dec 2016 #18
Its nice to be on the same page once in a while. Don't you think its time though, that we say JCanete Dec 2016 #20
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #21
I think they didn't know they were playing with fire. BayouBengal07 Dec 2016 #26
While fake news may not have been responsible for the result... Garrett78 Dec 2016 #27
I have been saying this repeatedly that it is a news problem. AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #28
In America the Media is a problem! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #29
Years ago, I traveled oversees and was shocked to see the difference in news content AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #30
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