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JHan

(10,173 posts)
19. again I have to stress..
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 11:46 PM
Dec 2016

I am not for "Deregulation"- I don't want to see massive deregulation. Of course we need regulations to keep us safe - but when we see unintended consequences as a result of excessive regulation, we should admit the need for reform. Not treat regulatory reform as though it's a dirty right wing idea.

"kill jobs is literally the right-wing position. " - It's just logic. Higher costs to hiring means business owners will find ways to cover the expense. Even Bernie admitted the increase would have a fall on effect on prices. This is basic stuff. check Seattle: there's nothing here to make me question the data: http://www.aei.org/publication/early-evidence-suggests-that-seattles-radical-experiment-might-be-a-model-for-the-rest-of-the-nation-not-to-follow/

"So, yes, I do think there is a very real rift in the Democratic Party from FDR/Great Society Liberals, and DNC Neoliberals. Turning to the markets to solve problems, even though we agree on what the problems are, is and will likely continue to be something that divides the left from the "center". " - what we should not do is treat "the market" as though it were a dirty word. Or "capitalism".

I'm ok with disagreements, as long as we hash them out honestly. But the name calling and accusations merely because we have different solutions to the same problems we recognize are problems don't help - this is the difference between Liberals and Conservatives- Liberals agree on the things that are problems, but may disagree on the solutions: Conservatives don't agree with us on what the problems are in the first place.

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Bio JudyM Dec 2016 #3
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The OP doesn't say Bernie bro, bro. JudyM Dec 2016 #5
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We Berners need to recapture/rehab it, is my opinion. JudyM Dec 2016 #10
The last 2 years can only make the movement stronger. Cooley Hurd Dec 2016 #11
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Was the Pop Matters writer familiar with this year's Democratic platform lapucelle Dec 2016 #6
ACA, Gay Marriage, the so called "obsession" with "Identity Politics" , investing in renewables.. JHan Dec 2016 #7
Well portlander23 Dec 2016 #8
So an imperfect system as it stands.. JHan Dec 2016 #12
Case in point portlander23 Dec 2016 #13
You're proving my point in a way... JHan Dec 2016 #15
No one's calling for an immediate hike portlander23 Dec 2016 #17
again I have to stress.. JHan Dec 2016 #19
kill jobs is literally the right-wing position portlander23 Dec 2016 #20
is the data cited wrong? JHan Dec 2016 #21
Yes, the report is wrong portlander23 Dec 2016 #22
you didn't address the actual report. JHan Dec 2016 #23
OK we're just going to have to disagree portlander23 Dec 2016 #24
I've edited my post, check it.. JHan Dec 2016 #25
Sure. We just disagree on what it is portlander23 Dec 2016 #26
Ted Rall is a racist piece of shit, who drew Obama as an ape...nt SidDithers Dec 2016 #14
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #16
Is this the right wing meme that government jobs aren't real jobs? portlander23 Dec 2016 #18
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