2016 Postmortem

MADem

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1. Oliver Stone is the left's Alex Jones.

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 03:38 PM

Dec 2016

Someone in Germany, France or UK just might get the scoop and pass it on if no one here does.

The reason that "EWWWWWWW ASSANGE!!!!!!" and "GASP!!!!! SNOWDEN!!!" didn't get much traction or bring down the House of Obama is because, aside from the fact that they are both useful tools of Vladimir Putin and are both being funded and/or protected by him, is because we all spy on each other. We all know it. We just don't SAY we know it. One or more of our allies probably has a damned good idea of what's going on in USA.

I can't tell you how many times I've had to boot allies out of NOFORN briefs. If I actually thought I was preventing them from finding out the trajectory of the conversation, I'd have called myself a fool--but conventions must be upheld.

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If the recount does reveal hacking, we will never be allowed to know. [View all] musicblind Dec 2016 OP

Oliver Stone is the left's Alex Jones. MADem Dec 2016 #1

I never thought of Oliver Stone that way. musicblind Dec 2016 #7

He always goes beyond the known into speculation that is often wild. MADem Dec 2016 #10

Nope. I've been alive during the times Stone makes movies about. He doesn't lie. ancianita Dec 2016 #8

So have I. My assessment stands. nt MADem Dec 2016 #9

Something I don't understand: MichMary Dec 2016 #2

As I understand it the hackery is on the cards used to load the ballots onto each machine. ucrdem Dec 2016 #3

So, would each smartcard/floppy have to be MichMary Dec 2016 #4

Well each has to have custom software loaded onto it from somebody's PC ucrdem Dec 2016 #5

Thanks for the explanation! n/t MichMary Dec 2016 #6