2016 Postmortem

jodymarie aimee

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28. not so fast Palmer

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 11:27 AM

Dec 2016

Here in Wisconsin, seals are broken on voting machines on election night to remove programming cards and open the ballot bin if the machine has one. Seals are put on the machine before the election after the programming card is inserted and tested, and after the ballot bins are verified to be empty - to prevent tampering during the election. The seals have numbers and are recorded on the inspector statements. I'm guessing (although I am unfamiliar with this type of machine and seal) that you are looking at the normal "seal breaking" from after the polls closed.

Just my guess. If they are hand counting, I don't know why the machines are present. And this may be another example of the observer simply not knowing what she was looking at.

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Wisconsin recount observers discover five vote counting machines with tampered seals [View all] .99center Dec 2016 OP

Where are the lawyers? UCmeNdc Dec 2016 #1

More where that came from flamingdem Dec 2016 #2

No way. This can't be true. ffr Dec 2016 #3

I predict that they will find tampered machines in WI MI and PA explains why the Trumpster didn't putitinD Dec 2016 #4

A broken seal is a sign they were tampered with JonLP24 Dec 2016 #8

or maybe Drumpf can just tweet it. putitinD Dec 2016 #9

It's better if it's not on the news just yet lostnfound Dec 2016 #22

Yep, that was their first tactic the last time they tried this shit and got caught. Raster Dec 2016 #26

You would think....but the media doesn't even bother with any pretense of being legitimate anymore AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #29

Just recount every state, to make sure no one cheated. putitinD Dec 2016 #5

Postpone the EC vote... !! pangaia Dec 2016 #6

Broken seals is a HUGE clue JonLP24 Dec 2016 #7

Republican 'family values" in action, as usual Achilleaze Dec 2016 #23

And void the warranty. Igel Dec 2016 #37

Security concerns JonLP24 Dec 2016 #38

St Croix county results JonLP24 Dec 2016 #10

Ah, so this is Russ Feingold territory..... KewlKat Dec 2016 #11

2012 results Takket Dec 2016 #39

KNR Lucinda Dec 2016 #12

Ohio and Florida voting is probably ripe with these diseases as well. C Moon Dec 2016 #13

I think the word you're looking for is . . . HuskyOffset Dec 2016 #17

Thanks. I think both work, though. :) C Moon Dec 2016 #20

So fucking predictable world wide wally Dec 2016 #14

Someone paid these people to do this. And coordinated it. The NSA has it all. McCamy Taylor Dec 2016 #15

Multiple machines seems like too much of a coincidence to not be a pattern... JudyM Dec 2016 #30

KnR Hekate Dec 2016 #16

There are seals, and there are seals... TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #18

i'm sure there's a perfectly reasonable explaination... not. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #19

Folks Bookmark This Comment.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2016 #21

these machines are hackable. end of story. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author blitzburgh55 Dec 2016 #24

Interesting tweets and video from WI blitzburgh55 Dec 2016 #25

Our electoral process is horribly compromised, CrispyQ Dec 2016 #27

keep in mind that the PTB are all "on the team," so of course they won't say anything to undermine TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #42

Love your screen name. CrispyQ Dec 2016 #46

thanks... it may be time to oil it up... and kicking... nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #53

knr triron Dec 2016 #54

not so fast Palmer jodymarie aimee Dec 2016 #28

St Croix uses DS200 and Expressvote - there are procedures to follow as far as seals are concerned. Ellipsis Dec 2016 #31

Known Security Concerns Aimee in OKC Dec 2016 #32

Yes indeed. Lot of vulnerabilities... but the setup routine has a sign off as far as "seals" Ellipsis Dec 2016 #33

Tracking of machines' history vs. simply ballot counting Aimee in OKC Dec 2016 #35

so wouldn't *all* the seals be broken? nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #43

No Ellipsis Dec 2016 #48

If this is true Tracyjo Dec 2016 #50

K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Dec 2016 #34

K&R True_Blue Dec 2016 #36

One part of that stands out to me DFW Dec 2016 #40

fact is, the PTB don't care, and decent, honest poll workers are to uninformed to realize what TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #44

Snopes claims "Unproven" RoccoR2 Dec 2016 #45

Yes, Unproven. .99center Dec 2016 #47

This is troubling. I expect the House to launch an investigation into the matter immediately. toddwv Dec 2016 #49

Actually, the laws are enforced by the Department of Justice, who work for the person pictured. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #51

Jesus f'in Christ! stop with the conspiracy theory's! stevebreeze Dec 2016 #52

latest on this? triron Dec 2016 #55