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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Wisconsin recount observers discover five vote counting machines with tampered seals [View all]LovingA2andMI
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In Michigan, and specifically Detroit in 2009 and 2013 -- what has been described above is how elections results should be questioned and recounts allowed.
For proof, here is a comment from the Mayoral candidate that discovered the rigging that took place:
This is quite telling. I keep getting asked how it's possible to rig an election. This will be my last comment on it and here is what folks are going to discover as to how the fix was done:
1) use the pre-programmed memory computer card to alter the true election night vote mix allocation to candidates in certain limited areas but leaving total votes cast unchanged and;
2) if a recount is requested, stall a short time to get to the cases where the mix was altered and SIMPLY put on a new security seal on the cases altered to NOT match the seal number recorded by honest workers in the election night poll book. The case cannot be opened or the paper ballot looked at!
Vio-la, the previous but now altered (rigged) computer count stands and...the rigged election is accomplished! 200 of us saw it with our own eyes...
But....what he is doing suggests that they make not have confederates to change the local seals.....uh oh!
1) use the pre-programmed memory computer card to alter the true election night vote mix allocation to candidates in certain limited areas but leaving total votes cast unchanged and;
2) if a recount is requested, stall a short time to get to the cases where the mix was altered and SIMPLY put on a new security seal on the cases altered to NOT match the seal number recorded by honest workers in the election night poll book. The case cannot be opened or the paper ballot looked at!
Vio-la, the previous but now altered (rigged) computer count stands and...the rigged election is accomplished! 200 of us saw it with our own eyes...
But....what he is doing suggests that they make not have confederates to change the local seals.....uh oh!
In the 2013 Recount Effort in Detroit, this commentator saw with THEIR OWN EYES what has described above, happen. Along with plenty of other highly questionable occurrences with "Write-In Ballots".
There is another way to rig an election with the older model Diebold machines.
Particularity, the ones running the older model 256K Floppy Disks or SD Cards. The cards can be programmed with a command like (-2 Candidate #1/+3 Candidate #2/+1 Candidate #3). The net effect would allow for every vote for Candidates 2 & 3 to effectively be deleted to Candidate 1 - resulting in a net loss for Candidate #1).
Now all of the machines do NOT have to contain the program 256K cards -- just enough to make the election results fit the favor of who is attempting to rig an election. A third party supplier normally handles these cards and floppy disks.
This COURT CASE DOCKET backs up what is alleged could have taken place to "Rig Elections" in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania -- depending on the machines and scanners used.
For what occurred in 2013, this article is the best point of reference:
Massive Fraud In Detroit Election A Big Deal For Michigan
Michigan's Presidential Election in 2016 was "decided" by 10,704 votes out of an estimated 4.5 million votes cast -- or just enough to change an outcome.
This is why at our option, a recount of Michigan, along with Wisconsin and Pennsylvania is MORE THAN NECESSARY!
Thanks for reading...
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Wisconsin recount observers discover five vote counting machines with tampered seals [View all]
.99center
Dec 2016
OP
I predict that they will find tampered machines in WI MI and PA explains why the Trumpster didn't
putitinD
Dec 2016
#4
Yep, that was their first tactic the last time they tried this shit and got caught.
Raster
Dec 2016
#26
You would think....but the media doesn't even bother with any pretense of being legitimate anymore
AgadorSparticus
Dec 2016
#29
Someone paid these people to do this. And coordinated it. The NSA has it all.
McCamy Taylor
Dec 2016
#15
keep in mind that the PTB are all "on the team," so of course they won't say anything to undermine
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#42
St Croix uses DS200 and Expressvote - there are procedures to follow as far as seals are concerned.
Ellipsis
Dec 2016
#31
Yes indeed. Lot of vulnerabilities... but the setup routine has a sign off as far as "seals"
Ellipsis
Dec 2016
#33
fact is, the PTB don't care, and decent, honest poll workers are to uninformed to realize what
TheFrenchRazor
Dec 2016
#44
This is troubling. I expect the House to launch an investigation into the matter immediately.
toddwv
Dec 2016
#49
Actually, the laws are enforced by the Department of Justice, who work for the person pictured. n/t
PoliticAverse
Dec 2016
#51