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andym

(5,954 posts)
7. They are more concerned with having greater opportunity and having "freedom"
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 03:49 AM
Dec 2016

So the social safety net is of secondary concern. They want to have better paying jobs and have been taught to believe that the government robs them of freedoms. Since they believe in the private sector and have been taught to distrust government, they believe the GOP claims that the reason they have problems finding good paying jobs is that the government prevents business from succeeding and is stealing their freedoms. So they vote GOP. The power of GOP ideology is strong.

Now they don't realize that they really getting the freedom to starve or be sick, or that removing regulations just allows corporate malfeasance and does not produce jobs. Lowering taxes on the rich and corporations also has only minimal impact on quality job creation. In fact more freedom allows the jobs to leave more easily to places with less costly workers. So they are really voting against their interests, while believing they are voting for them.

Trump however partially breaks the GOP freedom spell, by saying that freedom (free trade) can do damage-- it's a direct populist assault on traditional GOP ideology, and we will see how that affects the parties and the electorate. But with the likelihood of the dismantling of the safety net, many of the poor GOP voters are going to be in for a big surprise when the services they need are no longer available and the new high paying jobs do not materialize.

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Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #1
The thing is, she embraced some of Bernie's policies, she advocated for them and in my heart akbacchus_BC Dec 2016 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #4
I cannot argue with you on that, however, Bernie pulled her a little bit to the left, which is good. akbacchus_BC Dec 2016 #6
good q oldtime dfl_er Dec 2016 #3
Not only that, the polls pundit fooled us. akbacchus_BC Dec 2016 #5
I think that's it. hamsterjill Dec 2016 #28
They are more concerned with having greater opportunity and having "freedom" andym Dec 2016 #7
Thank you. How could trump supporters not see he was lying to them? Were they so bad off before? akbacchus_BC Dec 2016 #8
Why do people continue to buy cars from used car dealers with abysmal reputations? andym Dec 2016 #9
Because they are silly. If you look at some of the court cases on TV akbacchus_BC Dec 2016 #11
Yes Americans are gullible enough andym Dec 2016 #14
What IS the matter with Kansas? SpareribSP Dec 2016 #10
Not sure what you are trying to say! Sorry! akbacchus_BC Dec 2016 #12
A bit of backstory SpareribSP Dec 2016 #13
One of the problems with that Salon critique BumRushDaShow Dec 2016 #20
- Bigredhunk Dec 2016 #15
Anthropology Bear Creek Dec 2016 #16
Why do people buy lottery tickets? Amimnoch Dec 2016 #17
The swamp Bear Creek Dec 2016 #18
... kebob Dec 2016 #19
They're not voting against their interests EffieBlack Dec 2016 #21
I saw something that they are not voting against their interest Fresh_Start Dec 2016 #22
'they are voting against what we think is their interest' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #23
such as increased minimum wages, right to unionize, healthcare, Fresh_Start Dec 2016 #24
'BTW, the GOP passed NAFTA, the majority of the democrats in congress voted against it. ' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #25
President Bush negotiated NAFTA with Mexico and Canada Fresh_Start Dec 2016 #29
is it wrong to interpret VP Gore's debate with Ross Perot on CNN as support from Clinton? NRQ891 Dec 2016 #30
The mmore reasons I heasr about why so many people voted for the Con, the more I'm napi21 Dec 2016 #26
They are misled about what IS their interest. marybourg Dec 2016 #27
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