2016 Postmortem

blue neen

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21. The dislike for NAFTA in the so-called "Rust Belt" is understandable.

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:36 AM

Nov 2016

Probably some justified and some not justified. I'm no Economics expert here! I would venture to say this, though: Bill Clinton's support of NAFTA in the 90's cost Hillary votes in 2016.

It's just frustrating, though, that those same voters forget the harm done by Saint Ronnie Reagan.

People need to pay attention to what you and some other posters in this thread are saying.....the Democratic Party can't just APPEAL to white (and minority) working class voters-------they have to actually come up with SOLUTIONS for the loss of jobs that pay a living wage. Job creation! What a concept!

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Wacky county vote count numbers in Pennsylvannia. See for yourself. [View all] ffr Nov 2016 OP

I find some circumspect... apcalc Nov 2016 #1

Perhaps the rural folks really are deeply in love with their orange Donald jimlup Nov 2016 #2

Post removed Post removed Nov 2016 #3

The Democratic Party abandoned these people in favor of globalization Red Oak Nov 2016 #4

Bernie's platform played well to these people and Hillary ran against it.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2016 #9

She did not run against it BainsBane Nov 2016 #26

Okay, her supporters ran against it. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2016 #31

What are you talking about? BainsBane Nov 2016 #32

I haven't "created" anything.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2016 #33

What? No one told me supporters could run! kcr Nov 2016 #42

They practically gallop here. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2016 #44

That response made absolutely zero sense n/t kcr Nov 2016 #48

How about hop from thread to thread? Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2016 #50

She talked of putting industries "out of business" jack_krass Nov 2016 #46

Right! Much better to let the world burn! kcr Nov 2016 #49

She said the jobs left well before NAFTA.... but thanks Obama! bettyellen Nov 2016 #29

So you were one of the progressives who helped Trump win pnwmom Nov 2016 #5

I'm really sorry that you feel that way. jschurchin Nov 2016 #6

She had one of the strongest progressive records as a Senator, pnwmom Nov 2016 #8

Dear, I have NOT bashed anyone. jschurchin Nov 2016 #11

Yes you have. I was responding to this post, not your earlier one: pnwmom Nov 2016 #24

You didn't vote for her BainsBane Nov 2016 #27

1 uponit7771 Nov 2016 #28

How appropriate to say "surly turned Republican" Justice Nov 2016 #41

Goodbye! kcr Nov 2016 #43

We come from the same neck of the woods. Efilroft Sul Nov 2016 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author Red Oak Nov 2016 #16

Well I hope you are happy now. LisaL Nov 2016 #20

Where posted... yallerdawg Nov 2016 #7

In that case, you are one of the folks who will get the government they deserve. nt stevenleser Nov 2016 #10

Thank You for your Opinion Sir jschurchin Nov 2016 #13

And Thank You Skinner for PPR'ing this troll. nt stevenleser Nov 2016 #39

This post is exhibit A to what's wrong with the Democratic party woolldog Nov 2016 #53

No, your response is exhibit A as to what has been wrong with the left for a long time. stevenleser Nov 2016 #56

What those who voted for Trump don't realize...YET...is that manufacturing is not coming back NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #12

1000 nt jschurchin Nov 2016 #15

you are right weissmam Nov 2016 #18

I don't buy the current narrative that the jobs are not coming back. Red Oak Nov 2016 #19

My Friend jschurchin Nov 2016 #22

As long as the Supreme Court does their bidding, the money will continue to flow DFW Nov 2016 #54

word. nt TheFrenchRazor Nov 2016 #45

Also from western PA. blue neen Nov 2016 #14

You are Absolutely correct. jschurchin Nov 2016 #17

The dislike for NAFTA in the so-called "Rust Belt" is understandable. blue neen Nov 2016 #21

Im from a heavy manufacturing area of Michigan and I see the same thing here. jack_krass Nov 2016 #47

Idiotic self-defeating garbage. Maven Nov 2016 #23

Harsh, but true. mountain grammy Nov 2016 #25

explain how the maggot is better for the working class again? MFM008 Nov 2016 #30

The Nates (Silver and Cohn) say there's a 98% chance there's nothing there so... tandem5 Nov 2016 #34

1 uponit7771 Nov 2016 #55

Registration numbers DeminPennswoods Nov 2016 #35

I work in Western PA discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2016 #36

Lancaster PA here, Trump mania was real around here Amishman Nov 2016 #37

I work with a number of hunters discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2016 #38

One thing I have not seen discussed democrattotheend Nov 2016 #40

Welcome to PA RobinA Nov 2016 #52