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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Bill Clinton was going to privatize Social Security until, uh, Fate stopped him. [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)96. It is undemocratic, to include those with money and exclude those without it.
The men around that table, to greater and lesser degrees, continued the domestic and foreign policies of the slaveholders.
Here are a couple of modern day slavemasters, I mean, bankers...

Baron de Rothschild and Prescott Bush, sharing a moment and a bit o' information in this small world.
Rothschild and Freshfields founders had links to slavery, papers reveal
By Carola Hoyos
Financial Times
Two of the biggest names in the City of London had previously undisclosed links to slavery in the British colonies, documents seen by the Financial Times have revealed.
Nathan Mayer Rothschild, the banking familys 19th-century patriarch, and James William Freshfield, founder of Freshfields, the top City law firm, benefited financially from slavery, records from the National Archives show, even though both have often been portrayed as opponents of slavery.
Far from being a matter of distant history, slavery remains a highly contentious issue in the US, where Rothschild and Freshfields are both active.
Companies alleged to have links to past slave injustices have come under pressure to make restitution.
JPMorgan, the investment bank, set up a $5m scholarship fund for black students studying in Louisiana after apologising in 2005 for the companys historic links to slavery.
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http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7c0f5014-628c-11de-b1c9-00144feabdc0.html
The back of the object they are examining shows typing in a box, similar to what is often used for identifying content on the front of a photograph. Or map.
The point: We've got multi-generational slavemasters-&-warmongers to think about:
The Bush Family's Slaveholding Past
Was their dynasty built on slavery?
By: Edward Ball|Posted: February 15, 2008 at 12:00 AM
TheRoot.com
The image most people have of slavery involves a cotton plantation with a big white house, a black village where 300 people live in cabins and a cruel overseer in the wings. This was not the model followed by the ancestors of President George W. Bush when, 175 years ago, they enslaved about 30 people on the shores of the upper Chesapeake.
SNIP...
A new book by Jacob Weisberg, The Bush Tragedy, mentions in passing that at one time some of the president's family owned slaves. Weisberg doesn't dwell on the links between the White House and the antebellum past except to say the Bush clan's story is a long-held "family secret." The Bush Tragedy, a revealing book about family dynamics in the Bush political dynasty, treats the slavery matter only briefly, focusing instead on the "spectacular, avoidable flame-out" of the receding administration. But the story that joins the 43rd president to predecessors who held title to dozens of people bears retelling in detail.
The skeletal facts surfaced in April 2007, when an amateur historian named Robert Hughes published his research in the IllinoisTimes, a small paper out of Springfield. Hughes found census records showing that during the late-eighteenth and early-nineteenth centuries, in Cecil County, Maryland, five households of the Walker family, the president's ancestors via his father's mother, Dorothy Walker Bush, had been slaveholding farmers. The evidence is simple but persuasive: genealogies of the Bush family match up with census data that counted farmers who used enslaved workers. With this, the president joins perhaps fifteen million living white Americans who trace their roots to the long-gone master class.
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The family, nevertheless, seems to have looked back with nostalgia on their old slave hold. There are two pieces of evidence for this. In The Bush Tragedy, Jacob Weisberg refers to one of the later patriarchs, David Walker, as "a believer in eugenics and the 'unwritten law' of lynching," and cites as proof a letter Walker published in the St. Louis Republic in 1914. Black people, he wrote at the time, were more insidious than prostitution and "all the other evils combined."
The second piece of evidence is within living memory. In 1930, when they could afford it, the family again embraced the antebellum lifestyle. That year President Bush's great-grandfather, George Herbert Walker, bought Duncannon plantation, an old cotton estate in South Carolina, to use as a hunting retreat and vacation home. His namesake, George Herbert Walker Bush, the current president's father, spent many youthful vacations on Duncannon, where teams of black cooks, valets, and drivers served him and opened doors when he approached. The Bush heirs no longer own Duncannon plantation; but for a time, the estate provided a version of the baronial life, to which the antebellum Walkers aspired, but never achieved.
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http://www.theroot.com/views/bush-familys-slaveholding-past

In a very real sense, Prescott Bush and the Dulles Brothers must've felt he owned Tricky Dick. They've certainly picked up the lion's share of the wealth ever since.
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Bill Clinton was going to privatize Social Security until, uh, Fate stopped him. [View all]
Octafish
Apr 2016
OP
Much of what gets decided economically & politically, not just national defense, gets done in secret
Octafish
Apr 2016
#37
Agreed! The Shock Doctrine Treatise treats This Nonsense Well...So If the Other Night's Festivities
CorporatistNation
Apr 2016
#58
And there is no sane or valid reason to believe Hillary wouldn't do this. With the happy
djean111
Apr 2016
#2
History is important - We sure as hell don't want a repeat of a CLinton Admin
Ferd Berfel
Apr 2016
#17
We are not the ones grasping at straws. Those who do not remember history are doomed to
djean111
Apr 2016
#20
In case you missed it -- Hillary said Bill would be a trusted economic advisor
Armstead
Apr 2016
#53
No however he did call Hillary his co-president are you saying she will not reciprocate?
azurnoir
Apr 2016
#93
Thanks again for expansion of the truth, I love when you respond that way /nt
Dragonfli
Apr 2016
#33
Oh so that's what they mean by incremental change! I thought that's what I've been experiencing
highprincipleswork
Apr 2016
#9
Thank you, arikara. Hers is an outstanding presentation detailing cyberbullying...
Octafish
Apr 2016
#23
I am definitely war weary. So many of us are. That explains a lot of Bernie's surge.
Overseas
Apr 2016
#76
Next time the stock market crashes and doesn't wipe out your retirement, you'll understand.
Octafish
Apr 2016
#25
Thank you for explaining in detail. My concern regards the same US government.
Octafish
Apr 2016
#36
I asked the question after 2008 if SS had been privatized, how much of the Trust Fund would have
Samantha
Apr 2016
#41
That article doesn't even go far enough on Bill Clinton and SS privatization
BernieforPres2016
Apr 2016
#24
This is worth another kick and a special request blast from the past with a message.
bobthedrummer
Apr 2016
#28
The Lies of Neoliberal Economics (or How America Became a Nation of Sharecroppers)
Octafish
Apr 2016
#63
Old blue eyes in that context and picture, Sir, made me laugh albeit knowingly-thanks
bobthedrummer
Apr 2016
#85
Instead we've got perception manager George Stephanopoulos, and the Pentagon Entertainment Network
bobthedrummer
Apr 2016
#87
yes, and did not know that he continued Reagan's plan to means test it w/ heavy taxation:
amborin
Apr 2016
#29
One's gotta be a lawyer and a CPA to understand all the stuff -- except the politics.
Octafish
Apr 2016
#67
HRC Is Owned By The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks - Make No Mistake About Her Loyalties
cantbeserious
Apr 2016
#55
Neil Barofsky Gave Us The Best Explanation For Washington's Dysfunction We've Ever Heard
Octafish
Apr 2016
#103
Clinton was talking about using the budget surplus, investing a small portion in the private sector
BlueStateLib
Apr 2016
#57