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Atheists & Agnostics

sanatanadharma

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9. As long as God is seen as one more thing in or out of the universe, no understanding is possible

Reply to 3Hotdogs (Original post)

Thu Jun 8, 2023, 08:41 AM

Jun 2023

As long as God-Divinity is seen as one more thing in or out of the universe, no understanding is possible.
"God" as a concept or reality can not be some other-ness that we can comprehend or understand like trees and molecules.

All problems of theology are overcome when Divinity is understood as that which explains everything or makes everything possible.
All problems of theology arise because we project the 'rules of the world' (measured by sciences), upon a God which is also said to be (exist) before the 'rules of the world' began.

Divinity defined as 'existence' and 'consciousness' can not be negated. The Theist-Atheist arguments on both sides fail because they both start from a place of impossibility; both posit an impossibility and claim it is God or not-God.

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So ya gotta riddle me this. God is all knowing and God - well nothin' goes on without God's plan [View all] 3Hotdogs Jun 2023 OP

thank you lord for sparing me. meanwhile 200 neighbors were killed nt msongs Jun 2023 #1

Well, I know I am dying. OAITW r.2.0 Jun 2023 #2

I feel the same way. Delmette2.0 Jun 2023 #10

It allows people to work together and dream big. No surprise some of the first American applegrove Jun 2023 #3

Religion is supposed to deliver accountability but it does the exact OPPOSITE! nt TeamProg Jun 2023 #4

How old is the person who is penniless and needs to be told to find a job LakeArenal Jun 2023 #5

The Riddle of Epicurus Warpy Jun 2023 #6

God gave me free will BWdem4life Jun 2023 #7

A god overseeing human activity is a common misunderstanding, at least in Christianity. In the Karadeniz Jun 2023 #8

Sounds like more gobble gook to me. Farmer-Rick Jun 2023 #12

Hold on! I was giving a literary analysis of Christianity scripture. But, I admit that the portion I Karadeniz Jun 2023 #13

If by humanism you mean: Farmer-Rick Jun 2023 #16

Actually, out of body experiences have been verified many times! My favorite is the woman who Karadeniz Jun 2023 #17

Those stories of out of body experiences are myths Farmer-Rick Jun 2023 #18

The U. of Arizona conducted years of experiments to see if the Mind continued after death. The Karadeniz Jun 2023 #19

Geez, you are all over the place Farmer-Rick Jun 2023 #20

Thank you. Ligyron Jul 2023 #21

As long as God is seen as one more thing in or out of the universe, no understanding is possible sanatanadharma Jun 2023 #9

You just made that up Farmer-Rick Jun 2023 #11

The ancient lineage of Advaita Vendanta does say what I essentially repeat sanatanadharma Jun 2023 #14

I live because my parents had sex and Farmer-Rick Jun 2023 #15

"The idea that 'consciousness' is only as big as one body is an unproven belief." Ligyron Jul 2023 #22