Gun Control & RKBA

sarisataka

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21. I am promoting nothing

Mon Jul 24, 2017, 01:20 PM

Jul 2017

I have in the past stated my belief that the majority of people would not be capable of successful self defense with firearms. The vast majority of the people in that group will never seek to purchase a firearm. I still stand by that.

It is unfortunate that Mother Jones does not credit the source of the "facts" correcting that myth. There are other views however-

In 2010, incidents in the U.S. involving firearms injured or killed more than 105,000 Americans, of which there were twice as many nonfatal firearm-related injuries (73,505) than deaths.

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almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year.

https://www.nap.edu/catalog/18319/priorities-for-research-to-reduce-the-threat-of-firearm-related-violence
The CDC, which all gun control groups want to study gun violence, accepts that defensive gun use out numbers offense of by 5 to 1 ratio. I would like them to study the issue also.

So there are negative potential outcomes of gun ownership and use, I don't deny that. There are also potentially positive outcomes, do you agree?

Or do you believe there is something morally wrong with using a firearm to defend oneself?

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17 yr. old woman defends herself from criminal on the run [View all] pablo_marmol Jul 2017 OP

Not so sure sleeping with a gun under the pillow is cool. Throck Jul 2017 #1

Same thing occurred to me. Not the best plan. NT pablo_marmol Jul 2017 #3

DA/SA is your friend. ileus Jul 2017 #7

GUN HUMPING AMMOSEXUAL COWARD sarisataka Jul 2017 #2

"She endangered everyone within a two mile radius......." pablo_marmol Jul 2017 #4

Quander was an incompetent hack: friendly_iconoclast Jul 2017 #6

Red Alert Politics is a right-wing site- here's a link to the original story they cribbed: friendly_iconoclast Jul 2017 #5

Thanks FI.......NT pablo_marmol Jul 2017 #8

LOL, gun under pillow, smart gun owner?? NOT! n/t USALiberal Jul 2017 #9

Red Alert Politics?? SecularMotion Jul 2017 #10

That's rich coming from someone sarisataka Jul 2017 #11

Analogous, I suppose, to opposing a Democrat if (s)he is pro-gun. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #13

Or supporting a Republican sarisataka Jul 2017 #14

Any posts I've made with links to RW sites SecularMotion Jul 2017 #15

If I understand correctly sarisataka Jul 2017 #17

Did you know they make small wheelchairs for children? SecularMotion Jul 2017 #18

I am aware, I worked sarisataka Jul 2017 #19

I'm not deflecting SecularMotion Jul 2017 #20

I am promoting nothing sarisataka Jul 2017 #21

Why did she use such foul language? SecularMotion Jul 2017 #22

That's all you've got? sarisataka Jul 2017 #23

So you're saying an armed society is a rude society? SecularMotion Jul 2017 #24

I am saying I am glad the child victim sarisataka Jul 2017 #25

It's precisely the type of disingenuous "argument"........ pablo_marmol Jul 2017 #28

Silence speaks loudly sarisataka Jul 2017 #35

Heinlein melm00se Jul 2017 #37

Correct sarisataka Jul 2017 #38

"Why did she use such foul language?" pablo_marmol Jul 2017 #29

"What could be more pathetic than the idea the criminals need to be protected from foul language?" friendly_iconoclast Jul 2017 #39

You've lost credibility and the argument Alea Jul 2017 #30

I'm unsure as to whether 'Pecksniffian' or 'pharisaical' best describes that post friendly_iconoclast Jul 2017 #40

I think it's great... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #12

No, I think RW gun nuts and their agenda fall under "extreme fringe" SecularMotion Jul 2017 #16

If what I say is actually alertable, please proceed discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #31

"Isn't always better to allow for open discussion?" Alea Jul 2017 #34

Oh wow, I think we need the feds to start counting stuff like this ExciteBike66 Jul 2017 #26

Already been done. pablo_marmol Jul 2017 #27

"...worth it..."??? Really??? discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2017 #32

Amazing.....yes? pablo_marmol Jul 2017 #36

There have been several studies, some funded by the feds during the so called gejohnston Jul 2017 #33