Gun Control & RKBA

DonP

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19. State level regulation requires a lot of time and committment

Reply to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #18)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 11:20 AM

Dec 2015

Organizing, circulating petitions, showing up at town halls and such, meeting face to face with legislators and their staff.

We just went through it for Concealed Carry, even after the court ruling there was still a ton of work to do to shape the "Shall Issue" law.

There were hundreds of us working the legislature and only 1 or 2 lobbyists from Brady and Bloomberg, no grass roots people from the control side. I saw how "top down" they were first hand. We would have a few people sitting outside legislator's offices and a guy in a New York suit would be trying to schedule a "special phone call from Mayor Bloomberg" to talk about gun control.

But doing anything in the "real world" seems to be a challenge for our control minded friends.

Thy are big supporters of anything it takes ... for somebody else to pay for and do.

"Sure I believe in stronger gun control!"

"Write a check?"

"Go to an organizing meeting?"

"Get off the couch?"

"Use my vacation days to go to the state capitol?"

"You know I'd really like to, but my knee is acting up."

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The impasse (part 1) [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2015 OP

That's a mighty big "ask", something similary significant must be offered in exchange... S_B_Jackson Nov 2015 #1

That would be fine with me. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2015 #6

I'd support TeddyR Nov 2015 #2

They shouldn't happen for free. beevul Nov 2015 #3

I think a key component of any UBC benEzra Nov 2015 #4

Agreed but... discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2015 #5

I've been watching this thread closley virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #7

I agree with this assessment. NT pablo_marmol Nov 2015 #8

Agreed discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2015 #9

Simple and concise. Well said, nothing more to be said. rufus mcgurk Nov 2015 #10

That does seem to be the attitude DonP Nov 2015 #11

BUMP...Recent events have proven me to be correct in my assessment.. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author pablo_marmol Dec 2015 #13

I'm waiting... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2015 #14

I'm pretty sure a "gun control leader" is the guy with the most cartoons DonP Dec 2015 #15

yeah well maybe but... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2015 #16

I was just thinking DonP Dec 2015 #17

Here's an original idea (well maybe not but an encouraging one) discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2015 #18

State level regulation requires a lot of time and committment DonP Dec 2015 #19

Your exactly right Don.. virginia mountainman Dec 2015 #22

I'm forced by reality, to agree. beevul Dec 2015 #20

You really think your favorite group, the NRA, would ever "have a conversation"? nt Logical Dec 2015 #21

You mean like they did in writing the NICS backgortund check law? DonP Dec 2015 #23

Nice try..... Logical Dec 2015 #24

Still waiting for anyone on the gun control side to understand "compromise" DonP Dec 2015 #25

Your claim is the NRA wants to work with people on better background checks? LOL LOL LOL. nt Logical Dec 2015 #29

Fine, but you won't get jack shit in the way of legislation until they do DonP Dec 2015 #32

The fact that you defend the NRA and think they are anything but a right wing group is telling...... Logical Dec 2015 #33

It's not "defending them" to point out a political reality DonP Dec 2015 #34

Name one control measure the NRA has proposed! Nt Logical Dec 2015 #35

Of course, the NRA worked with Democrats recently when invited to the table instead of demonized. aikoaiko Dec 2015 #26

LOL, yes, they work with anyone that wants to agree 100% with them. You an NRA member? You ..... Logical Dec 2015 #30

Their goal is to ban all firearms. Whatever they say they want now is just a start. Skeeter Barnes Dec 2015 #28

Drop the $200 NFA tax, simplify and speed up the process. Skeeter Barnes Dec 2015 #27

Sounds fine to me discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2015 #31

I see what you mean now. Hope I didn't come off sounding rude. Didn't mean it that way. Skeeter Barnes Dec 2015 #36

not at all discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2015 #37