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Ms. Toad

(37,365 posts)
31. I get it.
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 02:37 PM
Jul 16

Maybe not the same underlying cause, but my family has two kids who are/have been on the outs. One murdered two women - he is actually the one with whom there was most continued contact. He had one really bad night in his life, fueled by a combination of peyote and alcohol - and racial taunting. We don't know exactly what happened - and his attorney thinks he stumbled in after the murder. (He died in prison from cancer 9 years ago.)

The other sounds more like your son. My parents have, alternately, been able to remain in contact with him. He has fetal alcohol syndrome (he was adopted) - a syndrome not yet identified when they adopted him. In his youth, he stole from all the neighbors. He is a sociopath (diagnosed) and an alcoholic. His IQ is low enough that - now days - he would probably have been eligible for educational assistance. But he dropped out of school in late middle school.

Over the years, usually, one of my parents has been willing/able to stay in contact with him. Currently it is my father - in the earlier years it was my mother who took forever to see what we siblings knew from around age 8. Over the years he has been in and out of rehab. Currently, he is sober and seems to have his life as much under control as a 67 year old sociopathic alcoholic diabetic with no skills can.

I inherit him when my parents die. (They have set up a special needs trust - I get to manage it, and to decide whether his kids (who inherited some of his challenges) get his share of the family fortune.)

But he has been mostly cut off from the family for decades - for my parents' mental health.

Take care of yourself. You owe an abusive adult child nothing - not continued contact, not money. Take care of yourself. If you are able to give him some grace, he may come around from time to time - but that is a gift, not an obligation. Your mental and financial health come first.

Feel free to communicate with me via DM if it might help.

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stay strong WhiteTara Jul 16 #1
You can only do so much Raven123 Jul 16 #2
IMO whether one is religious or not, we must selfishly love ourselves before we can love anyone else. By in2herbs Jul 16 #3
Very wise words, in2herbs. So many people need to hear them. Thank you for posting. wordstroken Jul 16 #7
And in the words of the immortal RuPaul..... ShazzieB Jul 16 #48
FirstLight what you're going through, is one dlilafae Jul 16 #4
Thank you for putting it so succinctly, dlilafae. Most people who are ... wordstroken Jul 16 #11
I agree, it is time to take care of you, FirstLight. sheshe2 Jul 16 #5
We love you, FirstLight, and we support you all the way. wordstroken Jul 16 #6
Hugs, FirstLight Bayard Jul 16 #8
My middle kid did same after my husband died cpamomfromtexas Jul 16 #9
Keep firm adam_vermont Jul 16 #10
A parent can only do so much roscoeroscoe Jul 16 #12
Question: single mom carrying the load. .our son? Am I guessing niyad Jul 16 #51
You have gone extra miles. (Plus bonus phone fact.) TommyT139 Jul 16 #13
It's not your fault cynical_idealist Jul 16 #14
Right here with you.. mountain grammy Jul 16 #15
same mg- et tu Jul 16 #19
He needs to grow up IbogaProject Jul 16 #16
My solution to any problem was to go to work the next day wolfie001 Jul 16 #44
Hang in there !!!!! Karadeniz Jul 16 #17
There comes a time homegirl Jul 16 #18
I know its tough sdfernando Jul 16 #20
This is what really stuck out to me, to which I say, Bravo! Sogo Jul 16 #21
I amdeeply sorry you are going through this irisblue Jul 16 #22
Sometimes you have to cut people loose so they can save themselves Warpy Jul 16 #23
It's heartbreaking beyond measure when an adult child has issues beyond your control dlk Jul 16 #24
I have (or had) a brother to whom I have not spoken in more than two decades. NNadir Jul 16 #25
I'm the same way with a sister who cut us off Ritabert Jul 16 #29
I've cut off all my siblings because they're all hardcore tRUMPers wolfie001 Jul 16 #45
I agree but I'm too old to deal with Trumpers. Ritabert Jul 17 #57
Enjoy these years! I retired in early Dec. 2023 and have never felt better! wolfie001 Jul 17 #59
Is your son addicted to anything, Naranon Family really saved our lives. lark Jul 16 #26
Thanks for all the support DU Family! Many wise words and hugs ..thank you FirstLight Jul 16 #27
Unfortunately, I can totally relate. My soon-to-be 58 year old son has BPD. judesedit Jul 16 #28
yes, the two are so different! FirstLight Jul 16 #30
That's all you can do. It is heartbreaking, but there is lots of goodness in this world. judesedit Jul 16 #42
I get it. Ms. Toad Jul 16 #31
"ingratitude, thou marble-hearted fiend" Paul-EM Jul 16 #32
You did all you could Mama Bird BaronChocula Jul 16 #33
My heart is with you Freddie Jul 16 #34
It sounds like he needs to hit bottom and take responsibility MadameButterfly Jul 16 #35
It sounds like you are taking steps to help yourself, and Hassler Jul 16 #36
My kids cut me off years ago, for the same thing. Linda ladeewolf Jul 16 #37
I pray that things get better for you and your family mdmc Jul 16 #38
Amazing stories of family disfunction Playingmantis Jul 16 #39
It is hard when that happens and I'm very sorry for it. PatrickforB Jul 16 #40
You go to therapy csusan Jul 16 #41
that poor child Skittles Jul 16 #43
It's hard to finally admit the relationship is too toxic to continue. Trueblue Texan Jul 16 #46
u come first. AllaN01Bear Jul 16 #47
Oh, dear friend. Holding you in love and light, wishing you all the blessings niyad Jul 16 #49
Best thing those kids BonnieJW Jul 16 #50
Sending hugs and support, FirstLight. HeartsCanHope Jul 16 #52
Oh FirstLight, I know your heart is aching. summer_in_TX Jul 16 #53
I am so sorry for what you are going through Jarqui Jul 17 #54
Here are some hugs for you. OldBaldy1701E Jul 17 #55
I am forever thankful I have close family, immediate and relations. Fla Dem Jul 17 #56
It's good to vent. I'm sure you're hurt. live love laugh Jul 17 #58
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