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nationalize the fed

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Tue Mar 25, 2014, 06:33 AM

Mar 2014

The official NIST report says that the damage caused by the collapse of the other towers started fires but was not a factor in the collapse of WTC 7

Finally, the report notes that "while debris impact from the collapse of WTC 1 initiated fires in WTC 7, the resulting structural damage had little effect in causing the collapse of WTC 7." http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/wtc-082108.cfm

WTC7 Fast and Furious

Summary from NCSTAR 1A WTC 7 Investigation (PDF) http://www.nist.gov/customcf/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=861610

"...Thus, WTC7 did not collapse due to fire-induced weakening of critical columns"...

"...Temperatures did not exceed 300 °C (570 °F) in the core or perimeter columns in WTC7"...

"...The thermal expansion of the WTC7 floor beams...occurred primarily at temperatures below ~750 °F"...

A self-cleaning oven is an oven which uses high temperature approximately 500° Celsius (900° Fahrenheit) to burn off leftovers from baking, without the use of any chemical agents. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-cleaning_oven

Temperature summary from NIST NCSTAR 1A
http://imgur.com/XfqGLMF

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Robert McCoy [View all] wildbilln864 Mar 2014 OP

Excellent. nationalize the fed Mar 2014 #1

great stuff, thanks for posting! n/t wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #2

How is a self-cleaning oven relevant to WTC7's collapse? AZCat Mar 2014 #3

Another clueless architect doesn't understand why the towers fell? Huh. William Seger Mar 2014 #4

I think I'd... wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #5

But then you need a different excuse to ignore Bazant William Seger Mar 2014 #9

bazant already .... wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #10

... oh, and a fired physics professor William Seger Mar 2014 #13

more anti-truth nonsense! wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #14

Oh, I "grasp conservation of momentum" well enough William Seger Mar 2014 #17

more nonsense! n/t wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #18

almost 2000 Architects & engineers! wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #6

Why do you ask us to shovel through this again? William Seger Mar 2014 #7

bull wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #8

I think I'll "go with" the guy who did the study William Seger Mar 2014 #11

this Les Robertson? wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #12

It sounds like he was "admitting" that he saw something William Seger Mar 2014 #15

they did recover some... wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #16

You have already admitted William Seger Mar 2014 #19

wrong! wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #20

Actually, you can't even prove that William Seger Mar 2014 #21

we know your schtick william! wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #22

And yet, this "we" you're referring to William Seger Mar 2014 #23

yadayada, blah blah! wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #24