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Environment & Energy

hunter

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12. NNadir's post on Levelized Full System Costs of Electricity is a good one.

Reply to Skittles (Reply #8)

Mon Aug 18, 2025, 09:52 AM

Aug 18

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1127184880

I spend a lot of time watching the behavior of the electric grid in California and calculating the actual performance of solar electric systems.

https://www.caiso.com/todays-outlook/supply

As some kind of radical environmentalist I regularly oppose all solar development on previously undeveloped lands, especially on the California desert.

I don't oppose solar development on land that's already been trashed by humans -- rooftops, parking lots, etc.

Offshore wind projects are simply vile, almost as bad as offshore gas and oil projects.

Yeah, Trump opposes these wind projects too, but not for the same reasons I do. Clearly Trump doesn't understand that these projects will only prolong our dependence on fossil fuels and cause further environmental destruction, otherwise he might support them.

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How One Woman Is Stalling Green Energy Projects in Oregon [View all] mahatmakanejeeves Aug 17 OP

imagine having all that time on your hands and choosing to do THAT Skittles Aug 17 #1

Reprehensible piece of crap ...hurting everyone with her stupidity and arrogance JT45242 Aug 17 #2

So called "renewable energy" has nothing to do with fighting greenhouse gases. NNadir Aug 17 #4

While I know this won't be happily received here, I applaud her efforts to protect wilderness from development. NNadir Aug 17 #3

Renewable energy is seeing massive growth that nuclear cannot hope to compete with. VMA131Marine Aug 17 #5

It would be useful, if one were to actually believe this nonsense, to look at the Mauna Loa CO2 observatory data. NNadir Aug 18 #9

Where is COVID in the Mauna Loa data? Finishline42 Aug 18 #10

Actually, I intended this post for another thread but... NNadir Aug 19 #14

let me guess, you want to say the data a Mauna Loa is wrong? Finishline42 Aug 20 #19

Don't worry. Be happy. I hear all the time that solar and wind will save us. By the way, my lights went on and... NNadir Aug 20 #20

How fast could we build nuclear power plants? VMA131Marine Aug 19 #15

It actually would require something called "numbers" to dispose of this absurd argument. NNadir Aug 19 #16

I notice you didn't answer my question! VMA131Marine Aug 19 #17

I interpret my response quite differently. I don't regard numbers as Gish Gallop, but I am well aware that... NNadir Aug 20 #18

We're not going to save the world by trashing it. hunter Aug 17 #6

you've done your own research Skittles Aug 17 #8

Well it is a little more complicated jfz9580m Aug 18 #11

NNadir's post on Levelized Full System Costs of Electricity is a good one. hunter Aug 18 #12

Can't live forever. rickyhall Aug 17 #7

Here's a direct link without the social media tracking: hunter Aug 19 #13