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NNadir

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8. Generally people who can't "follow" this sort of thing endorse solar and wind.
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 01:17 PM
Aug 3

Last edited Sun Aug 3, 2025, 03:56 PM - Edit history (2)

To me the implications of the data shown in my post is fairly obvious. My major concern is with the observed crisis of extreme global heating.

If there are people who can't "follow" this, that the trillions of dollars squandered on solar and wind have done zero, zilch, nothing, nada, to address the observed extreme global heating, I cannot help them.

Speaking of zero, my contention is that the amount of fossil fuels that should be combusted, the energy derived from them, should be zero. I'm not OK with saying burning less of them is OK nor am I OK with mining the shit out of the planet and industrialization of vast stretches of wilderness to make industrial parks for so called "renewable energy" (which isn't actually "renewable" ).

Again, if someone can't "follow" these relatively straight forward views, I'm at a loss to help them do so.

As for this "cheaper" bullshit claim, it is only made by selective attention. There is a cool paper - which may be impossible to follow without some basic business math - on what is called LFSCOE, that I was reading this morning:

Use and Abuse of the LCOE: A Market-Based Valuation Framework

If one actually "follows" what is going on in the world - and I claim that I do - one might be aware of the cost of energy in Europe this winter during a recent Dunklefluate event, when all of Europe was bitching and moaning about German energy policies, policies that in my view were ill thought out, destructive to the environment and placed an immoral burden on the poor.

I covered it here:

Germany's Weak Winds Trigger a Record Surge in Gas Fired Power.

The Norwegian Energy Minister States It Bluntly: "It's an absolute shit situation."

Is Germany Responsible for High European Electricity Prices?

German Energy Policies (Directly/Indirectly) Lead to the Collapse of Norway's Government.

I've been at DU since November of 2002. I've heard all the chants about so called "renewable energy" including the "it's cheap" nonsense. All of these delusional half truths have led us to where we are, a burning planet. During my tenure here, as of this writing, the increase in the concentration of dangerous fossil fuel waste from the day I joined DU is 54.84 ppm. I do "follow" these numbers, religiously, because I'm not into handwaving. I actually give a shit.

A burning planet is very, very, very expensive, way more expensive than electricity during Dunkelflaute. So called "renewable energy" has done nothing to address this reality, and the planet cannot afford it.

Have a pleasant afternoon.

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Despite the misleading slick ad from the fossil fuel industry, China's hydrogen is overwhelmingly made from fossil fuels NNadir Aug 2 #1
I wold not call it a scam Bluetus Aug 2 #2
Europe has been working on this for some time OKIsItJustMe Aug 2 #4
And then, this article about "hydrogen powder" Bluetus Aug 3 #6
They make a comparison to "green ammonia" OKIsItJustMe Aug 3 #9
I'm not impressed by the dishonest use of units of POWER to substitute for units of ENERGY. NNadir Aug 3 #5
Sorry, I don't follow your rant. Bluetus Aug 3 #7
Generally people who can't "follow" this sort of thing endorse solar and wind. NNadir Aug 3 #8
Once again, I cannpt follow your stream of riddles. Bluetus Aug 3 #10
They're not "riddles." They're DATA and historical reports on the cost of energy during Dunkleflaute. NNadir Aug 3 #11
Post removed Post removed Aug 3 #12
Your first simile comes closest OKIsItJustMe Aug 3 #14
This "conversation," such as it is, is concluded. NNadir Aug 3 #15
I will take your challenge. OKIsItJustMe Aug 3 #13
Thank you kindly for this nice succinct correct statement of my views. NNadir Aug 19 #17
I'm glad you feel I accurately summarized your views OKIsItJustMe Aug 19 #18
System Analysis: Hydrogen production from nuclear energy OKIsItJustMe Aug 19 #19
Thank you for sharing, but I have many hundreds of papers on various thermochemical hydrogen cycles going... NNadir Aug 20 #20
I also have been familiar with "Nuclear Hydrogen" for decades OKIsItJustMe Aug 20 #21
The highlighted statement or a variant is similar if not identical to those... NNadir Aug 21 #22
"Soothsaying" OKIsItJustMe Aug 21 #23
"... object to me continuously producing the following table ..." OKIsItJustMe Aug 4 #16
Hydrogen can be mixed with "natural gas" much as ethanol can be mixed with gasoline OKIsItJustMe Aug 2 #3
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