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highplainsdem

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6. Not the same. GenAI models, LLMs, work as well as they do (and they fail a lot) only because of the theft of

Wed Jun 11, 2025, 10:53 AM

Jun 11

the world's intellectual property by the AI companies. Those companies are rejecting regulation and any move away from the theft of IP, which is continuing and even accelerating.

https://democraticunderground.com/100219421175

The only way to make LLMs truly legal and ethical to use would be to scrap all current, illegally trained models and start over, using only what's in the public domain and what the AI companies have bought or licensed for training data. They aren't about to do that, for two reasons - that wouldn't be enough data for genAI to work well, and they can't afford to pay for any significant fraction of what they already stole. GenAI is an industry entirely built on theft, and in business terms it's also a con game.

https://democraticunderground.com/100220066913

It could be better compared to slavery than to the internet or pre-genAI computing.

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Oh, Thank God!!! Proposals In Motion For More Than 100 New Power Plants In TX, Because AI [View all] hatrack Jun 11 OP

A bil has passed the Texas Senate with disincentives for renewables. surfered Jun 11 #1

the ridiculous thing is that this will not be needed lapfog_1 Jun 11 #2

Well, that's not a comforting thought EYESORE 9001 Jun 11 #3

much like the internet, and computing before that lapfog_1 Jun 11 #4

Not the same. GenAI models, LLMs, work as well as they do (and they fail a lot) only because of the theft of highplainsdem Jun 11 #6

Absolutely! These systems should be illegal, imo! SheltieLover Jun 11 #7

Yes, and we must burn more coal and more gas - all of it, in fact - to power Shiny New Thing hatrack Jun 12 #9

Years ago, I marveled that no matter how fast CPU's got, Microsoft made them run slowly OKIsItJustMe Jun 11 #8

Well of course, as has been demonstrated over the last decade or so - werdna Jun 11 #5