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NNadir

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2. One would need to be an illiterate fool to think that 36.5 million tons of anything matters, as energy. China makes...

Reply to Caribbeans (Original post)

Tue May 13, 2025, 07:08 PM

May 13

...hydrogen from natural gas and coal and petroleum residues to make ammonia, of which it is the world's largest producer. It's fertilizer, not fuel.

Hydrogen in China is filthy, and all the lying to the contrary will not change that reality.

Subsidizing Grid-Based Electrolytic Hydrogen Will Increase Greenhouse Gas Emissions in Coal Dominated Power Systems Liqun Peng, Yang Guo, Shangwei Liu, Gang He, and Denise L. Mauzerall Environmental Science & Technology 2024 58 (12), 5187-5195

The text is clear enough.

From the introductory text:

... Currently, nearly all hydrogen in China is either produced directly from fossil fuels (55% from coal gasification and 14% from steam methane reforming (SMR)) or as a byproduct of petroleum refining (28%), with only 1% coming from water electrolysis. (2) Producing 1 kg of coal- or SMR-based hydrogen emits roughly 19 and 10 kg of CO2, respectively. (3) In 2020, hydrogen production from fossil fuels in China emitted approximately 322Tg of CO2, equivalent to 25% of total CO2 emissions from industrial processes, a number expected to rise with increasing hydrogen demand. (4) Industrial processes include production of nonmetallic mineral products, chemical, and metal products, as well as production and consumption of halocarbons and sulfur hexafluoride. (4)

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The bold, italics and underlining is mine.

EST: Chinese Hydrogen Production Is Making Climate Change Worse.

Cheering for hydrogen in China is cheering for extreme global heating.

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China leads hydrogen production and consumption in 2024 at more than 36.5 million tons [View all] Caribbeans May 13 OP

Coal, oil, electricity.......... Lovie777 May 13 #1

One would need to be an illiterate fool to think that 36.5 million tons of anything matters, as energy. China makes... NNadir May 13 #2