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In reply to the discussion: An(other) unwarranted attack. [View all]

sigmasix

(794 posts)
12. neofeminists are as bad as other extremists
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 03:38 AM
Feb 2013

DU has some man haters that disguise themselves as feminists. As a rule, I just tune them out. You will find that, akin to President Obama's attempts to woo teabaggers and faux "news" trolls, there's nothing you can do or say that won't be contorted and misrepresented by those that see you as the enemy because of your gender. And this is thier narrative to advance. Mind you, it is a very small percentage of DU feminists- they hide amongst mainstream feminism until they see an opportunity to advance extremist, anti-male positions and outlandishly contorted rationals for declaring most male actions, bahaviour and intellectual activity an excercise in dominance and power. Any progressive with an ounce of morality will recognize these people for what they are; hate-filled and inspired extremists with anti-progressive, anti-egalitarian sexist aims and ideaologies.
But, like I said- they are small in number when compared to intelligent, fair-minded progressives of both genders that are struggling daily to articulate the feminist critique of western history, culture and politics- while also attempting to energize and empower the movement for equal rights for women.
Every once in a while men have to deal with this kind of outright demeaning and degrading attitude and treatment from one of these extremists. The "dudes" that condone out-right, purile sexist stupidity- while claiming to be progressive are much greater in number- and slimey about some of the stuff they post, too!- so having a thick skin about this subject is suggested. Sometimes people are lied to and hurt so often that they require a bit of time before they lower thier gaurds; perhaps the woman with the toxic response had a bad experience with someone that used the same pet name for one of thier female victims and she is transferring the guilt to you because of the psychic comfort it brings her to confront one of "those men"- no matter how mis-guided her actions and intentions. You can be understanding and forgiving towards her, but not the deplorable character assasination and suppositions she has made about your relationship with your daughter in that short sentence.
Anyway- it seems to me that she gave away more about her own sexist worldview with her accusations about you, than anything else.
I had a discussion on DU a while back with a couple neo feminsits that tried to claim that men should not be allowed to be in the feminist movement because of thier gender, yet they claimed- with righteous manufactured indignity- that denying a man a job or position of leadership in a social justice organization, because of his gender- rather than qualifications- isn't sexism; rather they excused this form of bigotry as based in some sort of psyiological difference between human gender that prevents men from understanding feminism and social justice.
I don't need to point out the inanity and cruelty of this position though- when they use thier 1st amendment they sometimes reveal thier attitude towards real fairness and expose the extent and toxicity of thier hatred for human males.
Yaay freedom of speech!

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My daughter will be 20 in May. MrSlayer Feb 2013 #1
Thanks, brother! Bonobo Feb 2013 #3
My "baby" is 40 years old Downwinder Feb 2013 #2
Oh no! Bonobo Feb 2013 #4
How fucking absurd! Behind the Aegis Feb 2013 #5
Thanks for that. Bonobo Feb 2013 #6
You should always be allowed to feel. Behind the Aegis Feb 2013 #7
That too is hard. Bonobo Feb 2013 #8
It is difficult, and uncomfortable to break away from that stereotypical male role. Behind the Aegis Feb 2013 #9
Well, I guess there is an advantage to being crazy. Denninmi Feb 2013 #28
OT: Gonna add to your "rant"! Behind the Aegis Feb 2013 #10
Perspective. Bonobo Feb 2013 #11
neofeminists are as bad as other extremists sigmasix Feb 2013 #12
Nice post. Bonobo Feb 2013 #13
my point as well sigmasix Feb 2013 #15
I have seen the "Dude" thrown out there to offend. Bonobo Feb 2013 #16
The problem is it feels like the haters are the majority here NRA_SUCKS Feb 2013 #21
This is actually easy to reconcile. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #23
women's movement isnt feminism sigmasix Feb 2013 #32
Your post confuses me; are you saying freedom of speech is a bad thing? Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #29
no sigmasix Feb 2013 #30
Please refer to the pinned "regarding any & all disputes" thread for more information. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #31
thanks for the head's up sigmasix Feb 2013 #33
thanks for the head's up sigmasix Feb 2013 #34
No prob. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #35
That is ridiculous. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #14
My babies, boys and girls. Until the day I die. nt Bonobo Feb 2013 #19
I would suspect that that one... RevStPatrick Feb 2013 #17
Thank you for the kind words. nt Bonobo Feb 2013 #18
Wow, did you ever get attacked unfairly for that... Aristus Feb 2013 #20
With all the hate men get for "not being around" NRA_SUCKS Feb 2013 #22
Eh, it sucks ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #24
My wife still calls our children her babies Major Nikon Feb 2013 #25
DU can be a stupid place ... Trajan Feb 2013 #26
Sounds like it came from an angry teenager... Taverner Feb 2013 #27
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