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Warren DeMontague

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11. Bringing up actual factual information and statistics is, apparently, considered "derailing" in some
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 04:52 PM
Oct 2012

quarters.

Know WHY it's considered "derailing"? Because, just like confronting creationists with fossil evidence, the truth is inconvenient to the preferred narrative.

The preferred narrative, in this case, of course has to do with porn and hyper-rampant-ohnoes-sexualization of society, and the fact that people can go online and look at a picture of naked breasts. This is tied to the breathless hyperbole about the ever worsening 'rape culture' (translation, people like to look at porn) ...and the horrible sex-sex-sex-everywhere in the media because god help me if I have to change the channel myself... and the endless assurances we've heard for the past 3 decades that consenting adults looking at pictures of other consenting adults fucking MUST lead, somehow, to violence and rape.

Except, the statistics don't bear it out. Rape is down. That is an indisputable fact. So either the worsening "rape culture" isn't actually worsening, or there actually isn't a lot of porn on cable tv or the intertubes (when obviously there is) OR, and this is the kicker- porn has less than jack diddly shit to do with rape, correlation-wise, causal-wise, any of it.

Porn is up, rape is down.

Facts matter.

Like I said, terribly inconvenient to the narrative.

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I would like to see the inbox of those researchers 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #1
When I posted this in GD DavidDvorkin Oct 2012 #2
Pretty well expected 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #3
Here's a fact that NEVER fails to piss tons of people off: The World is getting more peaceful. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #4
Didn't someone (maybe you) post that on DU and get an angry response? DavidDvorkin Oct 2012 #5
Oh, every time. Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #10
It's true at the local level too. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #6
I'm a little surprised 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #8
interesting stats bodem1955_om Oct 2012 #15
I read a long time ago that people's perceptions are distorted by TV DavidDvorkin Oct 2012 #7
Apparently this ruffled some feathers 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #9
The next thing you know they'll be claiming the study was funded by MRAs Major Nikon Oct 2012 #13
That's kind of a shame. opiate69 Oct 2012 #14
My thoughts exactly 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #18
Heh. n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #16
Every study that says what I want to hear 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #17
Bringing up actual factual information and statistics is, apparently, considered "derailing" in some Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #11
In "some quarters" 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #12
There's a good reason why some don't want to admit rape is down Major Nikon Oct 2012 #19
Then you just argue 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #20
University press release misconstrues HSRP press release and study findings One_Life_To_Give Oct 2012 #21
Ah but that's not true 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #22
Rape is Common in Rwanda and a couple other countries One_Life_To_Give Oct 2012 #23
The initial conclusions were correct 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #24
The implication of your statement is false One_Life_To_Give Oct 2012 #25
Which is not a weapon of war 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #26
It`s become painfully obvious.... opiate69 Oct 2012 #27
It has to be willful at this point 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #28
That's what happens when your ideology trumps reality Major Nikon Oct 2012 #29
Well, the penis is a terrible device 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #30
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