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However, these arguments quickly switch back and forth between "some" and "most" or "all". Its very easy to seek out extreme examples with which to try to manouever defenders of broad priniples - like free speech - into the position if defending specific instances of reprehenible shit.

I wont play that game, what i will say is that anything involving non consent is a crime. It sounds like the participants in the shit youre referencing might have a criminal case, and the evidence is even on film.