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caseymoz

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10. Instead, why not work to retain married women?
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 10:05 AM
Jun 2012

And get more single women to vote?

It's rather apparent, from what you say, that men are extremely inflexible in their POV and party affiliation. Example: With all the money poured into the Wisconsin, the vast 91% of the population did not change their mind at all from when the signatures were gathered till Tuesday.

At least women show that they are flexible.

I'm sorry to say that the trend that you cite with 28% less income than their grandfathers is an inevitable result of more women competing for jobs. You could either give males income support, and you can bet that will go over well, or you can discourage women from working, and yes, that will be popular, too, as well as unjust.

It's not from discrimination that income for males has declined. It's unpopular to point it out here, but their grandfather's were privileged. They had few women competing for jobs, no computers to make their jobs superfluous, and little or no downsizings and outsourcings. A decline of privilege feels much the same as discrimination.

Also, if you think men will become progressives if we favored them more in family court, I think you're grossly miscalculating. They're still going to be opposed to Choice. They are still going to be gun righters. They are still going to perceive their interests to be in de-regulation. They are still going to listen, by and large, to tax-free religions, many of which make their money by spouting a fundamentalist, male-favorable religious sects. They may become less strident, watch other TV besides Fox, but this generation of males will vote mostly the same. Their political affiliation is based on a view of the world.

I myself think: this current generation of males is a loss. They won't change ideologically until there's catastrophe that requires them to rethink things. That goes for the citizenry in general.

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To be more specific, it's white males. Kaleva Jun 2012 #1
Oh my Dokkie Jun 2012 #2
e) wait for white suburban males to be a minority. Warren Stupidity Jun 2012 #3
White suburban males are already a minority. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #4
more of a minority. Warren Stupidity Jun 2012 #5
All in it together? lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #6
Instead, why not work to retain married women? caseymoz Jun 2012 #10
Married women's interests are aligned with the family's interests. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #11
You see "reality," but I hold "negative stereotypes?" caseymoz Jun 2012 #12
conversational progression. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #13
Again, if you see "reality," but I hold "negative stereotypes" . . . caseymoz Jun 2012 #14
You don't like the facts or you don't like the conclusions? lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #15
I didn't read it. caseymoz Jun 2012 #16
I give it a 5. opiate69 Jun 2012 #17
Challenging opinions aren't everyones cup of tea. nt lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #18
yep... opiate69 Jun 2012 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #7
I think this is part of the solution. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #9
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One would think so. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #21
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