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lumberjack_jeff

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6. All in it together?
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 04:02 PM
Jun 2012

Men buy into the ideas of protecting women ("women and children first&quot . We are also generally okay with expecting individual men to carry their own weight ("every man for himself&quot . When men get their backs up is when we are told that the different choices men and women make shouldn't result in different economic outcomes, and that we should man up and tolerate unfair treatment in family court. The problem that men have with both of these is that they compromise our ability to be adequate providers for our families.

This is the employment to population ratio among working-age men. This is the economic reality that men experience.


Men reaching adulthood today will earn 28% less than their grandfathers. It's no wonder that they are pissed. Telling them that this is unjust in favor of them is both a distortion as well as an impossible, counterproductive sell.

What should be an easier sell is telling men that democrats recognize and want to fix this situation. Americans expect and insist that their kids will have it better than they did, even if it does require hard work.

I must admit that there are some days when I can understand what it would feel like to be a log cabin republican.

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To be more specific, it's white males. Kaleva Jun 2012 #1
Oh my Dokkie Jun 2012 #2
e) wait for white suburban males to be a minority. Warren Stupidity Jun 2012 #3
White suburban males are already a minority. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #4
more of a minority. Warren Stupidity Jun 2012 #5
All in it together? lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #6
Instead, why not work to retain married women? caseymoz Jun 2012 #10
Married women's interests are aligned with the family's interests. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #11
You see "reality," but I hold "negative stereotypes?" caseymoz Jun 2012 #12
conversational progression. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #13
Again, if you see "reality," but I hold "negative stereotypes" . . . caseymoz Jun 2012 #14
You don't like the facts or you don't like the conclusions? lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #15
I didn't read it. caseymoz Jun 2012 #16
I give it a 5. opiate69 Jun 2012 #17
Challenging opinions aren't everyones cup of tea. nt lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #18
yep... opiate69 Jun 2012 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #7
I think this is part of the solution. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #20
One would think so. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #22
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