Men's Group

The problem, as I see it, is that some people think drunkenness, in itself, equals de facto consent - though obviously I shouldn't have to tell you how wrongheaded that is. As I said in another post on this thread, drunk rape isn't any less rape-y than sober rape.

What it really comes down to, for me personally, is whether both people are participating in - and presumably enjoying - the act. If one person is largely passive while the other does all the work, so to speak, it isn't necessarily a crime but could be problematic, from an ethical standpoint. In that scenario, one person may not be raping the other, but it sort of does seem as if the other is being used. Making the distinction, again, between what is legal and what is ethical.

And really, so long as a person's actions fall within the law, the rest of us pretty much can't tell them how to live their life. We can hold whatever opinions we wish about their behavior, of course, but remember what Clint Eastwood said about opinions and assholes...