Men's Group

I could care less if someone wants to say porn is icky, or immoral, or whatever, so long as they are not advocating suppression. That's what freedom of speech is all about.

If someone is advocating suppression, then you're talking about something else entirely. Suppression requires trading freedom for something else. Those who want to claim it isn't are just wrong. I place a very high value on freedom. There are valid reasons for suppressing things. We don't allow children free access to opiates for obvious reasons, nor should we. However, suppression should ALWAYS require justification, regardless of whether it's pot, porn, cigarettes, alcohol, or whatever. Simply the claim that you don't like something, or you think it's icky, or your religious tome says it's bad is not good enough. Those are moral arguments. In a free society, nobody should have to argue for allowance. That is a bassackwards way of looking at things. In order to suppress something you'd best have a damn good reason for doing so. It shouldn't be something abstract like you think it poisons the culture. Those are bullshit arguments based on morality. It should be something that you can demonstrate that shows a positive link between cause and effect. It should be something substantial. Something that has a negative impact on a few is not sufficient justification to deny it from the many. Alcohol turns some people who have addictive tendencies into alcoholics. That doesn't mean alcohol should be suppressed from people who might want it and suffer no ill effects.