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karynnj

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4. An article that goes beyond the NYT
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:53 AM
May 2016

This is a source that the Israel/Palestine forum hates. It is to the left and hates Netanyahu. http://mondoweiss.net/2016/05/hillary-clinton-would/

However, this article is fascinating as it points out that the NYT did NOT print this article or his article from (I think) last week on how HRC became a hawk until the NY primary was safely over. While supportive of the NYT article, it does somewhat chafe at the adjectives and characterizations, even though a quick look at twitter (or DU from the limited comments) show that people themselves got the point. The Iran deal almost certainly would not have happened had Clinton won in 2008.

I liked a tweet, that rephrased the difference between Kerry and Clinton as - John Kerry showed foresight and initiative in pursuing the Iran nuclear deal, and Hillary Clinton didn't.

I think the NYT article was fine and it is the first time I have NOT been annoyed by one of their writers speaking of how "administration officials" were concerned about Kerry's actions. The reason is that it is pretty clear that, both in that tentative beginning, then in 2011/2012, and in the end -- Kerry can now be clearly seen as having been correct. His accomplishments include both the negotiations with Iran et al AND his work to keep Obama's backing.

This article essentially says that Kerry and Obama went against much of the FP power structure in DC, which had quietly enabled so many of the neo con adventures.

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