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freshwest

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3. Until I saw that factoid posted here, I didn't know that. It would have changed my mind about him.
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 06:45 PM
Aug 2015

We did not need to break up the party when we had a successful, progressive and liberal advocate for all of America's people - and the world's people.

But PBO wasn't enough of 'a socialist in name only' as BS is, so he wasn't good enough for the crowd. Obama is first and foremost, a realist. He said he would only take on battles he could win and he has won.

Those that he cannot win, he does not take on to use up his valuable, short time as POTUS. He changed the conversation in this country yet few will dare to acknowledge it.

Such as the ACA with the no pre-existing condition clause, that actually took place in 2010 as the law passed, at great cost to himself and Democrats across the country. Now people have greater expectations the health care industry is forced to respect. Because now it's 'the new norm.'

Too many fell for the billionaire line that it was not good enough - they have enough money to buy both sides of the aisle in political punditry. And so they didn't give PBO the majority he needed to reverse the effects of the Bush tax cuts. The GOP immediately tried to shut down the government and have done so since, until the point was made to the American public they'd 'better learn how to shift for themselves.'

I've seen good people in public service, especially in the federal government, who left after the shut down when the drunken GOP insane clown posse wanted the USA to go into default so they could pocket the pieces during the chaos they knew would ensue.

They are still threatening the same, with either the sacrifice of the disabled with a 20% permanent cut in benefits or a 60% cut for everyone on SS. This is their dream.

At times I think Sanders is for real, at other times I think he's sold out like the Democrat who gave the state legislature a GOP majority by resigning in Virginia, IIRC.

The same thing has been done in my 'purple' state with those who used the Democratic money and name, then immediately switched parties. They see 'the writing on the wall' and the best way for the billionaires to get away with that is to divide the Democrats as is being done for decades now. Or get them to not vote or to vote third party.

Sigh...

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It's a ridiculous argument, but I consider the source. BS wanted to primary Obama in '12. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #1
I so agree with you Tarheel. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #2
Until I saw that factoid posted here, I didn't know that. It would have changed my mind about him. freshwest Aug 2015 #3
Exactly, Tarheel.. he said "millions were deeply disappointed in him because.. Cha Aug 2015 #10
Look at the bright side, if he keeps saying shit like that William769 Aug 2015 #4
Righteous rant, William. brer cat Aug 2015 #5
Bernie seems to be his own worst enemy. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #6
"he is for women when it suits him" George II Aug 2015 #12
no demilib Aug 2015 #35
Yeah, he's using the Democratic party's platform to run against the Successful and Popular Cha Aug 2015 #13
President Obama has been very successful. yallerdawg Aug 2015 #7
1,000% with you on that. Same experience, too. n/t freshwest Aug 2015 #19
+10000~ sheshe2 Aug 2015 #25
Yeah, I know what smartypants means, she.. As if the President didn't know the gop Cha Aug 2015 #8
Wrong sandbox, but nice try. n/t bvf Aug 2015 #9
You are so right! sheshe2 Aug 2015 #11
No, you didn't make a good "try" at all. Better luck next time. Cha Aug 2015 #14
Looked to me like a defense of Obama against the obstructions he got in Congress. Cleita Aug 2015 #15
Bernie's statement makes perfect sense to me. jalan48 Aug 2015 #16
The Caucus Room conspiracy. Cleita Aug 2015 #17
Exactly. These Republicans are some fucked up people. jalan48 Aug 2015 #18
No, BS is condescending as hell.. telling it took President Obama too long to figure it out.. Cha Aug 2015 #22
Sorry-my bad. I didn't realize I wasn't supposed to comment here. jalan48 Aug 2015 #23
Groups have SOPS. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #33
FYI, this was alerted as an SOP violation of the Barack Obama group. Needless to say, I do not agree stevenleser Aug 2015 #20
Oh yeah.. the alerter can't stand to have us talking about President Obama in the BOG Cha Aug 2015 #21
Lol~ sheshe2 Aug 2015 #26
Yeah, the consensus in the BOG is.. Your POST Did Not Violate Statement of Purpose, she. Cha Aug 2015 #27
I know Steve, thanks! sheshe2 Aug 2015 #24
Yeah, she.. does not matter that a non Democrat is using our Democratic Platform Cha Aug 2015 #28
Given that Senator Sanders (I-VT) has run as a Democrat before... yallerdawg Aug 2015 #29
Yep, he's good. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #30
You just made me so happy! Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #32
I'm not locking it either. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2015 #31
Some of it I think is pure frustration that more could have gotten done if it had not been for davidpdx Aug 2015 #34
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