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ucrdem

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22. Good explanation.

Reply to yallerdawg (Reply #21)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 03:40 AM

Jun 2015

That's pretty much my understanding -- FTA's sort of fall between the stools constitutionally and FTP's are a reasonable compromise of enumerated powers.

As for TPP, I think it will have an immediate positive effect on the economy in terms of job gain, export volume, probably import volume too, and I think the jobs lost will be far fewer than with NAFTA, as there frankly aren't many industries left that haven't already offshored as much as they can. Plus I think the issue has been given considerable thought by PBO, who reportedly asked Steve Jobs in 2011 if iPhones couldn't be made in the US, and there will be provisions and incentives discourage job flight in the final bill.

p.s. Jobs reportedly said no way Jose.

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ditto, ditto, ditto n/t MBS Jun 2015 #25

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Good explanation. ucrdem Jun 2015 #22

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